I mean, makes sense to me. You’re storing your data on someone else’s servers, makes sense that it would count towards your storage quota on said servers.
Having said that, it’s really shitty that they’ve removed local backups (and that they don’t allow other third party services beyond Google Drive and Apple iCloud).
Another reason to not use WhatsApp (or to use another backup solution), I guess.
Having said that, it’s really shitty that they’ve removed local backups
Every day I love Swiftbackup more, indeed I have been using this solution even for WhatsApp.
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@Darken I remember I once had all my messages disappeared (because of something that I did). Luckily, WhatsApp already backed up my messages a couple of days before. So I simply uninstalled the app, then reinstalled it and selected the backup to restore. A few messages from my work group were gone forever, indeed - those sent after the backup was taken - but they weren’t an issue for me. Nothing important was sent in that time frame. With the backup I recovered pretty much more than 99% of the messages.
And 95% of the time it decides that I should not restore my data because fuck the user?
Never happened to me. 100% success rate.
Same, for the last two years.
When did they remove local backups? Or is it removed for someone who has opted for Google Drive backup?
I never chose cloud option, so I have my local backup. Android by the way.
You’re storing unencrypted data on google drive with those backups, so they scan all of your chats. Whether they just look for malware/CSAM or people manually look through your chats is something you’ll never know.
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WhatsApp supports encrypted backups: https://faq.whatsapp.com/1246476872801203/
I mourn for the poor worker who needs to look through all my dick pics
But it’s text, an entire persons message history can be stored very cheaply.
A million words is only 2MB.
Most people are expexted to text less than 10 millions words in a lifetime.
An entire persons lifetime message history is only 20MB, that’s trivial to store.
If they want to charge to save media, thats fine, but text backups should be free
Does it have an option to back up only text, without images and other media?
I don’t use WhatsApp, but my Signal backup is several gigs because of images and videos.
In WhatsApp it is possible to back up only text and images, without video. Not modular enough though
I’ve just checked. In the UK at least, you can choose to exclude videos from the backup, but not images.
WhatsApp bundles them together, that is the problem. Google does not know how to differentiate it.
Signal
I personally use Matrix, but to each their own!
It’s on my todo. Signal is an easy install for all.
Yeah whatsapp sucks, but I am tired of trying to convincing my family to switch.
Supposedly because of the EU, they are working on interoperability with other apps.
Just waiting to delete that spyware app.
Hopefully they will make it costly enough so that the people will stop using it and as a result choke MetaZucc’s AI data training and research
We can hope but it’s the standard nearly everywhere no one will leave esaily
Hopefully they will make it costly enough so that the people will stop using it and as a result choke MetaZucc’s AI data training and research
Who do you think “they” is? It’s not like Google would offer free storage for anything but maybe its own service anyway.
WhatsApp is e2e encrypted tho
The backups aren’t unless you specifically set it up which I guess most people don’t
Never saw auch a clickbait title.
the backups will count towards your 15gb free quota
Most people do not have a full google drive. This only includes a small portion of the whatsapp users who use google backups.
I have seen people having WhatsApp Backup of upwards of 5-8 GB
There’s also an option to transfer your chats to another device without backing up to Google drive, but it obviously works only as a transfer tool not as a backup.
Hope that sh*t goes bankrupt once and for all.
Narrator: no it will not, not anytime soon.
High time WhatsApp allowed backup to other cloud solutions like Dropbox/OndeDrive/others
Nothing Is for sale, everything is cloud based subscription, dlc’s, and micro transactions. And you’re also the product.
WhatsApp chat backups on Google Drive will no longer be free and will contribute to your Google account storage usage.The new policy is already in effect for WhatsApp beta users and will be rolled out to regular users in the near future. WhatsApp backups will count against your Google account storage limit, which includes the free 15 GB of storage provided with every Google account. Users will receive a WhatsApp notification or email from Google approximately one month before their backup situation changes. To continue backing up your GB WhatsApp Download chats, you may need to free up space in your Google account by deleting unnecessary files or consider upgrading your storage through a Google One subscription.
Local chat backups on signal are soo convenient and to the point.
Why are people saying local backups are gone?
It does have local backup but I couldn’t find how to restore from local backup.
How do you make a local one?
The Android app has an option in settings, chats, and chat backup. I don’t see how to make it take a local backup but apparently it has one already recently.
