For mental health reasons, I had taken myself out of most political topics. But lately there seems to be a surge of talk about Palestine and Hamas (forgive me if I spelled this wrong). I do know it’s something to do with land rights, but it also seems to be so much more at the same time. I’m not trying to start any fights. I just want to understand. Thank you.
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This is incredibly nuanced topic with decades of history. Search for the Israel Palestine conflict and check out the YT videos from Vox they’re pretty comprehensive and mostly non partisan
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If you checked out for mental reasons, do yourself a favor and keep checked out.
If you want to know news events look at a couple diverse news sites. They’ll do a much better job of informing you than social media.
But somehow this post has the vibes of purposefully starting this social media fight again. Too many things you know for someone checked out. Too naively suggesting “something to do with…” that’ll rile up people. I call bullshit. Go back to Reddit!
Yeah this topic is not one to easily just jump into. I tried to make a summary in a long post here, but its really hard, there is too much information. If I were you I would just sit this one out altogether.
All I know is Hamas rules at least some subset of the Palestinian people, and has for seventeen years. They were elected back then, but there have been no elections since.
A non-elected government ruling people who are prevented from owning weapons has, predictably, resulted in Hamas having enormous contempt for the people they rule, and using them as civilian cannon fodder.
Palestinians are denied human rights by Israel.
Israel prevents formation of peaceful political groups in Gaza, but allows Hamas as “preferred opposition”.
This supports Israel’s goal of genocide against Palestinians and provides a convenient excuse for bombing civilians.
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Largest open air prison.
Where people could leave any time they wanted, and many Palestinians worked in Israel. Not a very good prison.
Their response is disproportionate, and it seems their goal is genocide and complete control of the land.
Israel doesn’t want Gaza. They literally left it in 2005 precisely because they didn’t want anything to do with it. But while Hamas exists, there will never be peace. Tbh, there will never be peace there anyway. It’s the Middle East. War is the only thing they know.
Why do they stay there?
What countries are accepting refugees from Gaza?
This has been going on for decades. There are thriving palistinian communities in California, New York, several other US states and in various countries. It just seems that there are a lot of folks living good lives abroad. My question is, considering that this kind of horrific behavior by Israel was inevitable based on their hideous previous behavior, why haven’t they all left before now?
They’re poor people without the resources necessary for international resettlement. Now you have politicians demonizing Palestinian civilians as all terrorists. Some have even proposed deporting Palestinians BACK to Gaza.
Zionists had resources and western political support, so they took the land instead of settling somewhere they were welcome.
Palestinian civilians have no resources, so their land has been stolen.
There are literally twice as many Palestinians living abroad in Europe and the rest of the world than live in isreal. It’s a tightly knit community even so. People that stay there are making this choice for other reasons than that they can’t travel.
I’m not sure it helps to say this.
But something motivated the two million Palestinians who have left to leave.
Sorry but you make it sound like it’s easy to just get up and leave. If that was the case, all the people I know back in my 3rd world home country would’ve left already. Just because there are communities around the world, it doesn’t mean it’s easy to get there, especially with how strict immigration is nowadays. Not to mention these are people coming from the middle east, in a region where countries are wary of accepting people from.
Israel took over
How nicely you avoided the fact that Israel was in fact attacked. It didn’t try to conquer the other countries. On a contrary, other countries aimed to eliminate Israel. Some of them are still trying and you’re actively helping them.
Autocratic regimes always see the neighbor democracies as a threat. This is why Russia attacked democratic Ukraine, this is why a bunch of countries attack democratic Israel.
It never was about the land, it never was about the religion.
