I’ve been seeding many Foss things for years but for some reason, people keep downloading Ubuntu versions that are more than 3 years old.

Any ideas why there is always someone downloading the ancient stuff, especially Ubuntu?

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    1 year ago

    I just want to say that you’re a MVP for seeding that much for that long. Lots of TBs up there - you’ve helped out a ton of people.

    Thank you.

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    Yes, Ubuntu 20 isn’t EOL yet. A lot of those downloads are probably IT staff or developers that are running Ubuntu servers or developing on those versions.

    ETA: We still have some RHEL 7 and clones at my day job

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    20.04 and 22.04 were LTS versions, aka, long term support.

    Any application that requires stability should run on LTS versions. Combined with Ubuntu being one of the most popular distros, makes 20.04 and 22.04 the most popular choices for anything in a home lab and many smaller business needs.

    Whether you’re building a server for home DNS, or a time server for a small business, then you’re probably using Ubuntu as the base.

    I think the next LTS version will be 24.04, so things might shift sometime after that.

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      1 year ago

      Correct. Naming of ubuntu is always . of release. The LTS’es are supported for four years, so when 24.04 is released, the 20.04 will be EOL

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    I can give you an answer from someone who regularly downloads really old EOL versions of Ubuntu and Debian. I personally use them as part of attack and defense competitions. They are normally very close to unusable and are nearly impossible to update to a more recent or secure version. This forces my team to find creative ways to keep them working while also taking measures to isolate them as much as possible. I also use them to teach old exploits that have been patched in more recent versions, walking people through how it worked and why it existed.

    It happens a lot more with Windows machines, but there might be some manufacturing systems out there that require software that won’t run on modern versions of the OS. These systems often require new manufacturing tools in order to upgrade, or they need massive overhauls that smaller companies can’t always afford.

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    I assume it’s not human driven. Maybe some automated archiver? Some bot looking for proof of pirated content, and just downloads everything it finds?

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      Right, that sounds like a good guess. That makes sense, bots are everywhere.

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        Some of it may be, but the fact that the LTS versions (20.04 & 22.04) are downloaded overwhelmingly more than the others seem to indicate it’s more intentional.

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          Do old versions of Linux (Ubuntu in this instance) run better on really old hardware? That might be a reason if so.

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    I worked at a place which was still using a 20.04 version (for products they were selling) because updating it would require spending any amount of time updating software. Path of least resistance is using the old os forever.

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      10 years ago I was working at a place that still used an Apple ][e

      It controlled a ROM burner that was vital to the manufacturing process. In a back room was a stack of backup ][e s just in case the production one should ever fail. In the years I worked there it never did.

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    Systemd haters? But seriously, this could well be because of business environments where applications require specific OS versions to keep being supported by the vendor. Or better: where the orchestration tool cannot be updated because of the old OSs while said OSs cannot be updated because it will break orchestration.

    This is why people love containers: you can run insecure software on insecure OS (component)s while pretending to be in control on your shiny Kubernetes cluster.

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    I occasionally have to download and run old versions in a VM to build poorly supported software.

    E.g. step 1 of the build instructions here

    Install the following packages in an ubuntu - 14.04.6 LTS machine