Almost 90 bombs were dropped in one region in just 24 hours.

Almost 90 bombs were dropped in one region in just 24 hours.

Russia unleashed an unprecedented bombardment in southern Ukraine overnight in what local officials described as a “massive attack” in the conflict which has continued to rage even as the international community’s attention has moved to the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza.

The Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry on Monday morning said Russia dropped at least “87 aerial bombs on populated areas of the Kherson region - the largest number for all time.” At least eight people were also injured in other Russian strikes carried out in the Odessa region further to the west on Sunday night.

  • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1575·
    11 个月前

    There is a lot of misinformation in your comment.

    The United States didn’t fund Israel’s iron dome system.

    There isn’t a genocide (race / tribe killing) in Gaza. That’s a population transfer or eviction of lands.

    Ukraine and the United States are working together to implement a air defense system. A likely defense treaty and a 100 year lease on military bases in exchange for infrastructure rebuilding is on the table.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      528·
      11 个月前

      There isn’t a genocide (race / tribe killing) in Gaza

      Genocide isn’t just killing…

      In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

      Killing members of the group;

      Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

      Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

      Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

      Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

      https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

      And even if that was just indiscriminate killing based on race/ethnicity, the UN is already saying what Israel is doing amounts to that

      https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/11/gaza-running-out-time-un-experts-warn-demanding-ceasefire-prevent-genocide

      Your opinion is your opinion.

      But what is/isn’t a genocide is clearly defined in the Geneva convention. And even if you’re definition was correct, the UN disagrees with you about Israel meeting that definition.

      • ParsnipWitch@feddit.deEnglish
        74·
        11 个月前

        The UN’s humans rights body is heavily biased against Israel. And in general not a neutral party as you seem to think.

        Of the 193 countries which make up the UN, the majority (133) are non-democratic states. 48 are countries belonging to the OIC (Organisation of Islamic Cooperation).

        Of the 280 human rights condemnations the UN has found world wide between 2006 and 2023, 103 where in Israel. They found none in, for example, China, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. They also didn’t cry genocide during the genocide in Rwanda.

        I 100 % believe Israel commits war crimes against Palestine. But I do not believe that Israel alone is responsible for almost 40 % of all human rights violations world wide since 2006.

        • jarfil@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          11 个月前

          Some wars are about who gets control over some resources, or who will be collecting the taxes, without trying to wipe out the other side.

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
              205·
              11 个月前

              If that was true, then I’m sure there’s lots of statements from human rights organizations world wide clarifying how it’s wrong.

              Do you mind linking one?

              Quick edit:

              Also, that doesn’t mean Israel isn’t breaking the Geneva Convention…

              In fact, it seems to be admission that they are…

              • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldEnglish
                521·
                11 个月前

                It will take a bit to pull it from the 1948 archive but Raphael Lemkin used it because it was a loaded word to mean killing millions of people.

                The actual UN definition added any transfer of children from one ethnic group to another in the last week of negotiations in 1948. Even by that definition it doesn’t meet the UN term with what is happening in Gaza.

                • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  124·
                  11 个月前

                  So to clarify, you agree that Israel is violating the Geneva Convention?

                  Your issue is just that the Genocide section is called that?

                  If all this is really that pedantic and you understand that human rights abuses are bad, and Israel is committing human rights abuses, I guess I’ll take what I can get.

                  But it seems like you’re defending the acts Israel are committing on the basis that the section of the genocide section of the Geneva Convention is more in depth than just saying “don’t exterminate every single person in a group”.

                  Because by that logic, there wasn’t a genocide in North America for over a century against the indigenous people…

                  Even by that definition it doesn’t meet the UN term with what is happening in Gaza.

                  Your still ignoring the majority of what the Geneva Convention says…

                  I’ve linked it multiple times, and even quoted it once so you don’t have to click the link…

                  https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

                  Specifically

                  Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

                  And

                  Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

                  But the link really goes into specifics that you should know, just read the link.

                  • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    419·
                    11 个月前

                    Because by that logic, there wasn’t a genocide in North America for over a century against the indigenous people

                    I don’t agree there was a genocide against the waring tribes of the Southeastern United States. The results of the Indian Removal Act wasn’t a genocide but a forced migration after the War of 1812 due to to the local tribes joining the British and slaughtering civilians. If you read the Act you will see it was a direct response to the actions the tribes took against civilians.

                    The Souix Nation on the otherhand saw their children taken from them and placed in religious boarding schools, that would qualify.

                  • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    120·
                    11 个月前

                    I don’t see anything Israel is doing that is a crime at this time. Governments get a lot of leeway when dealing with terrorism and Israel is dealing with the aftermath of a wide scale terrorist attack against civilians.

    • rah@feddit.ukEnglish
      253·
      11 个月前

      That’s a population transfer or eviction of lands.

      Jesus christ.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          302·
          11 个月前

          Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making a region ethnically homogeneous. Along with direct removal, extermination, deportation or population transfer, it also includes indirect methods aimed at forced migration by coercing the victim group to flee and preventing its return, such as murder, rape, and property destruction.[3][4][5] It constitutes a crime against humanity and may also fall under the Genocide Convention, even though ethnic cleansing has no legal definition under international criminal law.[3][6][7]

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing

          • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldEnglish
            325·
            11 个月前

            Yes, stupid people (United Nations for example) use the wrong word, all the time, especially when it’s translated from another language. Genocide is the wrong word to use. Israel is not wiping out nor trying to wipe out the Palestinians.

            • someguy3@lemmy.caEnglish
              141·
              11 个月前

              This ain’t an etymology thing. Definitions are clarified for legal purposes. I think you have to ask yourself why you’re trying to dig your heels in against a literal definition. They didn’t define it wrong, it’s literally defined in excruciating and exacting detail for legal purposes.