• @krigo666@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    No it’s not, ad blocker is working perfectly… :)

    Now even more seriously, the amount of ads and how aggressive they are is what led to people using adblockers. It’s ridiculous having to see 2 full 20 sec ads at the beggining and then interrupting as it pleases every 3 or 4 mins. On top of that the ads are all lies or manipulation. Fuck Google and their shitty ads.

    YouTube Premium? LMAO! Not worth the price, if they had a simpler cheaper tier, just for no ads, 2€ per month I’d might consider it. 8.50€? Fucking rip off. Again, fuck Google.

    • Shake747
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      348 months ago

      Chrome is working hard to get that sweet internet explorer status

    • z3rOR0ne
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      78 months ago

      Don’t forget you can use the command line tool yt-dlp to download videos from Youtube or Invidious ad free, with subtitles, and even have the sponsor mentions clipped out.

      This plus using rss feeds is how I watch youtube without ever visiting the site, subscribing, or liking.

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          My setup is somewhat unique. I run Linux and love the command line/terminal emulator. I use newsboat rss reader which reads a text file that has a bunch of YouTube links listed one per line.

          These urls were sourced directly from the youtube channels I want to subscribe to. In your browser, Ctrl+u opens up the html. Ctrl+f opens find, search “rss”. Adjacent to the first search result is the rss url to be put into the aforementioned file.

          In newsboat, i can browse the latest updates to that channel. Hitting “o” opens my browser with the latest video. To boot, I use a redirection extension that takes that url and redirects to an invidious instance. Noscript extension prevents any javascript and I just copy the url {ctrl+L and then ctrl±c)

          Finally I use yt-dlp in the terminal, pasting the url as its last argument (ctrl+shift+v in most terminal emulators). An alias wrapper immediately adds flags for medium quality (highest is often massive file size), subtitles, and sponsorblock (cuts out mentions of sponsirs via sponsorblock api). I also have similar aliases for high quality vids if I want them and also just extract audio for music. I watch/listen using mpv.

          This is how I generally watch YT vids on my desktop. On mobile I use GrapheneOS and Libretube. Google has to send a CSV of your subs if you request it. Grabbed that a while back, uploaded it to Libretube, and haven’t gone directly to youtube cept to grab rss urls since. Btw, you can grab rss from invidious in a similar fashion, but I grab rss directly from youtube in case that invidious instance goes down.

          • Free Palestine 🇵🇸
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            28 months ago

            Thanks for the in depth explanation.

            I use newsboat rss reader

            I use newsboat too, just never considered using it for YouTube

            An alias wrapper immediately adds flags for medium quality (highest is often massive file size), subtitles, and sponsorblock (cuts out mentions of sponsirs via sponsorblock api). I also have similar aliases for high quality vids if I want them and also just extract audio for music. I watch/listen using mpv.

            I actually do the same thing

            On mobile I use GrapheneOS and Libretube

            Fucking based, I use the same stuff

            I’ll try out something similar to your setup, but I will use my self-hosted FreshRSS server that connects to my newsboat as well as my Invidious instance. But keeping my subscriptions in my self-hosted Piped or Invidious is fine as well.

  • froggers
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    258 months ago

    Still wondering how this will play out in the EU.

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      8 months ago

      It might actually be illegal in the EU for them to run scripts to detect ad blockers without asking permission first.

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        118 months ago

        Yeah, that’s why I’m really curious about how this will play out. I just hope that people will be the ones benefiting from this shitshow and not Youtube.

        • @0xD@infosec.pub
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          18 months ago

          YouTube is a for-profit service run by a company. If they can’t make it profitable due to low premium adoption or regulation there will be less freedom to post/view stuff on there. There will be no upside for users.

          Everyone should really reevaluate their stance on premium services and the value they get out of them. The time of free is over - even something like lemmy needs funding.

      • @Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world
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        58 months ago

        So then they’ll just embed them into the video, refuse to serve the video until the time is up, etc. Running clientside snooping scripts is only one way for them to enforce this. The idea that EU law will somehow force YouTube to just serving you content without ads is entirely copium.

        • @Moneo@lemmy.world
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          88 months ago

          A black screen is infinitely less annoying than an ad. I don’t see google winning this battle.

          • @NightOwl@lemmy.one
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            48 months ago

            Yep, been common for sports streams where you get a notification that game is on break or something and play will resume once game starts again. Preferable over ads to me.

          • @Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world
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            28 months ago

            OK? That’s still not Google “losing” some battle. The point was the legality of their current implementation isn’t going to change whether they give in and just serve you the content like the OP was claiming

        • @originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee
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          38 months ago

          So? Let them make those changes then. That’s additional complexity and effort. They absolutely scoped that implementation against the one they chose and chose not to do it. Forcing them to spend the effort is still meaningful.

          • @xkforce@lemmy.world
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            28 months ago

            You really dont want them embedding ads into videos like that. There’d be no blocking them and no way to download them without the ads baked right into the video file.

            • @Moneo@lemmy.world
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              38 months ago

              People will figure out a sponsorblock-esque crowdsourced ad detection that auto skips everything that isn’t part of the video.

            • @SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz
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              38 months ago

              SponserBlock provides defenses against that with minor modifications.

              It’s been suggested that that would be an absolute last ditch effort because it trashes your ability to display targeted ads or update them without absolutely wrecking your CDNs. You also can’t have the ad link to anything because that would allow the client to trivially detect and skip it.

              Ad Nauseam also provides the nuclear option of downloading the ads, pretending to display them, and even pretending to click them. You might still have to wait out the delay for while the ad should be playing for the first ad, but once you get past that they can’t prevent the player skipping ads without also preventing you skipping 30s of boring content.

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      8 months ago

      uBlock contributors were pumping out filter updates like crazy these past few weeks. There was a constant tug of war as Google kept patching YouTube again every time they got adblock working again. Their tracker for YouTube issues has received something like a thousand comments since this all started.

  • @Iwasondigg@lemmy.one
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    118 months ago

    I’m not going to watch 60 seconds of make-money-online scam ads just to watch some stupid cat video. They’re really overestimating the value of Youtube “content.” It’s mostly frivolous crap. If they cap it to an ad per hour or something maybe. But it’s out of control.

  • @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    28 months ago

    I’ve got 3 or 4 different ad blockers installed just to cover the gaps in when YouTube finds a way around uBlock Origin for a couple days.

    Still doing their job as of now. 🤞