• Agitated_Ad6191@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I don’t have a problem with this. Offside = offside. Doesn’t matter if it’s with your whole body or with just a fraction of the feet. You (literally) gotta draw the line somewhere.

    That said I would get rid of the offside rule altogether. They got rid of it in field hockey years ago, and the game (also because of a handful of other great changes) became better. Football is so ready for some radical new rules.

    • Shorter games with a playclock that stops when ball isn’t in play
    • Introduction if the selfpass after a free ball
    • Unlimetd substitution (you don’t stop the game for a substitution),
    • a penalty bench. If a player receives a yellow card he immediately sits 8 minutes on the penalty bench. Team can’t replace him duringthat period (a red card is still a red card.
    • Two timeouts per game per team. You can only call for a timeout if your team has the ball on the opponent’s half.
    • Smaller teams. Max 6 substitutes on the bench. So Mn City or PSG can’t bring unlimited starsplayers
    • insaneking101@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Offside used to not be a thing but it made football pretty shit because people would just wait near the goal to scoop something up. Football doesn’t need radical new rules. It’s the most popular sport for a reason. However, the sport does need AI/VAR implemented better

      • Agitated_Ad6191@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        I grew up in a time when a goalkeeper could just pick up the ball, anytime. It was horrible! It was a radical change to the game when they changed that rule. If people like you were in charge that would still be a thing. So yes, sometimes things need change. The game has evolved enormously, players have evolved and also fans have evolved (shorter attention span). Why so afraid of change?

  • ACMBruh@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Watching this with my Juventini cousins who are pro-var and they are fuming lmao

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        11 months ago

        The way I see it VAR can (and likely has) be used as a tool to allow more corruption into the sport, by giving people time to decide whether to intervene or not, to officiate in whichever way, gives the outcome they want the highest likelihood to happen, I cannot be pro VAR for this reason alone.

        Then you add in the fact goals are scored and people aren’t celebrating, taking joy and excitement out of the sport cannot be a good thing.

    • _deep_blue_@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      It’s so tough because the whole point of VAR in relation to offsides is to be able to determine if something is offside or it isn’t, which in 99%+ of cases you can see. There are these occasions where something is technically offside, like with a sliver of someone’s boot or a tiny part of their shoulder, but it doesn’t feel like it’s really in the spirit of the rule. In those cases though you can’t say that you’ll allow it because offside is meant to be a black or white decision, and if you let these minuscule infringements go you then need to decide where the line is again.

      • berbakay@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        The rule needs to be adapted so that every time someone is called offside everyone can agree that the striker was gaining an advantage.

      • Queeg_500@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        There really needs to be a buffer zone for offsides calls.

        There is no skill here, the defender didn’t make a conscious attempt to play the attacker offside by 5mm, it’s just pure luck.

        I’d argue that any advantage an attacker gets inside 30cm is negligible, and hardly worth all this effort to penalise.

        At, it feels like we roll the dice to see if a goal stands based on an offside call that neither player knew anything about.

        • TooRedditFamous@alien.topB
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          11 months ago

          So that just moves the line 30cm. It doesn’t solve the problem. Imagine this exact same picture except Kean is 31cm past the last defender, the line is drawn at 30cm from the last man. Same problem

          Sure in this case that would make this one definitively onside, but like I said there will be a time when a striker is ~30cm past the last defender and the line drawing becomes an issue again

          • Queeg_500@alien.topB
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            11 months ago

            But at least you can say he was well offside, and it would be much easier to take. It changes the narrative and players/fans will feel much less hard done by with tight calls.

            "if my team had a goal disallowed because the was 31cm offside, it would be much easier to take.

      • Lutzelien@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        I remember pre-var there was “same hight”

        This is definitely same hight, no offside

  • BrandonSG13@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Very unlucky for Kean and Juve, but there’s no argument to be made here. Offside is offside.

  • PrizedTea@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    VAR and the modern offside calls are honestly killing all excitement in football. Make a run into the box basically 50/50 if it’ll stand. Implement the Arsène Wenger rule or just scrap this one atom of the attacker is offside nonsense.

  • Unfair-Rush-2031@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    The thing with recreating the players with 3D images instead of using the actual live image is tricky.

    If the graphic designer chose generic 3D football boot template #1 instead of #2, the boot design might have been slightly slimmer and therefore not offside.

    They shouldnt use 3D modelling to replace players. It’s not accurate. A ball is a ball. Players come in all different shapes and sizes.