I’ve always argued this wasn’t the case and that motoring is a worse transport mode because of the associated externalities, not because of anything inherent to the users.

But you can’t argue with the scienceTM!

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    https://www.fernuni-hagen.de/universitaet/stimmen/schuster.shtml

    The lead authours stated personal goal is to increase proportion of bicycle use from 8% to 25%.

    While it might not be “science for hire”, the authours have a pre-existing and documented goal.

    I’m not saying the results are wrong… Only that you maybe shouldn’t be so quick to shit on the guy who raised his eyebrow… Because it’s an extremely valid question to ask, given the facts about the relationship between the authours of the study and the clearly personal relationship they have to the subject matter.

    They, in essence, did a study that “confirmed” that they themselves are better people than 92% of the population.

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      The lead authours stated personal goal is to increase proportion of bicycle use from 8% to 25%

      Yes, scientists have opinions and agendas.

      Only that you maybe shouldn’t be so quick to shit on the guy who raised his eyebrow

      They. Did. Not. Read. The. Study.

      They, in essence, did a study that “confirmed” that they themselves are better people than 92% of the population.

      Look, if you want to dismiss a study, do so, I couldn’t care less. But so far you both haven’t brought anything but ad hominem against the authors.

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        Look, if you want to dismiss a study, do so

        For someone constantly accusing others of not reading, you seem to have a lot of trouble reading. I’ll leave it to the exercise to the reader (not you, obviously, lol) to find the sentence where I explicitly say that this doesn’t necessarily invalidate the results.

        brought anything but ad hominem against the authors.

        Acknowledging the biases of the people doing research isn’t an ad homienem attack. Would you be clamouring to defend studies about the dangers of smoking written by people with large interests in the tobacco industry? No?

        You are having an extreme an emotional reaction to the presentation of fact.

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          I’m all for more cycling and getting rid of cars entirely, but this is reaserch methods 101. One of my college courses was entirely about finding flaws in research, and this is a great example of a study that has an intended purpose, and very selectively shows the data they want it to show. And with things like qualitative data that requires an opinion to show in the first place, you can throw this out as junk from the getgo. This is popular science made for click bait headlines.

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          And another ad hominem. Bye.

          Edit: and if you cannot see a difference between a scientist advocating for bikes and someone advocating for a known hazardous drug you are completely lost.

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        Holy mother of based someone on this site who actually reads the fucking study

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      Did they have a preconceived goal and then did the research to match it, or did they do the research and then formed a goal to match it?

      These are two different things. And while the former is bad, the latter is not. In fact, forming a political opinion after in-depth study of a topic is something we should all do.