• SkyNTP@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    As far as electrification goes, Toyota is virtually at the bottom of the list of car manufacturer . I’ll see it when I believe it.

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      1 year ago

      F.U.D. Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. A favorite tactic of IBM, then Microsoft, now Toyota. If you can’t compete, announce an upcoming “breakthrough” so customers will delay purchases from competitors

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        1 year ago

        Truth, these type of announcements are meant to instill a sense if something better is coming if we just wait. It’s a honest strategy if there is truly something in the works but right now a lot of misinformation is just making it an bad strategy to use.

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        Yeah with car manufacturers the usual tactic is ‘concept’ cars of ‘the next model’ containing every single thing a consumer could wish for… which of course never get built.

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          Pontiac Aztec was the worst ever. The concept was so cool and they claimed almost ready for production. It would have been YUGE! …… then somehow they released a completely different disaster of a vehicle that is now part of history as one of the worst ever

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          The Prius was the first mass market car in the entire world that could drive on battery power. Sure, the range sucked, and they dropped the ball after that by failing to shift focus to hydrogen, but the fact is Toyota does have a history of strong innovation in this space and I could totally see them being the first to ship a car with a solid state battery.

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            The Prius was the first mass market car in the entire world that could drive on battery power.

            Firstly, no it wasn’t. There were many attempts at pure BEV in the twentieth century, including several “mass market” models in the 90s. None were particularly successful, but that doesn’t make Prius the first.

            Secondly, that was more than quarter of a century ago. The first Prius came out as many years before today as the Apollo 15 moon landing was before the Prius. The market has moved on. Toyota can’t dine out on Prius forever.

            Arguably their biggest cockup was betting the house on hydrogen while the rest of the market realised battery-electric was the way to go. Hydrogen is a dead end technology for private cars, and Toyota was pretty much alone in not realising this.

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        1 year ago

        And then sat around for about the next two decades and watched everyone surpass them.