• devfuuu@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I mostly agree, but only because what people usually call “dailies” are actually morning meetings around half and hour. I also had those sometimes, it’s horrible.

    But on the other side, when you have truly meaningful dailies that do what they are supposed and make the right people talk to each other and are short (5 to 10 minutes), those really are good. I’ve had those and I like them a lot.

    There’s many mistakes people make, like letting a single person describe in detail the shit they were doing ( nobody cares about that, it’s not a status meeting with your manager), others like focusing on telling things to the manager there which is totally wrong since most times he shouldn’t be there or if there should be totally invisible.

    The whole point is to make the people on the team talk with each other, either saying they need help on something or they found something that needs further discussion or deciding that another stakeholder on another team or manager needs to get involved to help unlock something. Most times not even everyone needs to speak, if everyone knows what was happening either because they were pairing or working on something already known, it just needs to be skipped ahead.

    Anyway, truly most people are right in hating dailies because almost no one gets them done close to right.

    I find them valuable to get a quick overview of what other people in the team are doing and maybe struggling since I could help and is a good way to start the day by knowing which priority I need to focus first (usually help in a review because some other colleague really needs to unlock their work). When working remotely one could spend the whole day sometimes focused on their own work and getting a quick overview with the team is good.

    Now, don’t have dailies with managers or people not related to the team unless they were called specifically to help on some issue. And anyway that should just be a quick thing, like saying "hey I’ll need to talk with you maybe after the daily because X"and that’s it.

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      1 year ago

      The whole point is to make the people on the team talk with each other "hey I’ll need to talk with you maybe after the daily because X"and that’s it.

      Can’t this be accomplished by people using your company’s messaging system (hopefully not teams). You shouldn’t have to have meetings to force collaboration.

      I am all for being up to date with what your team is doing, but there is no way that every member of the team gives a meaningful update in every standup.

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        1 year ago

        It really depends on what is the size of the team, which according to many should not be more than 6 or 7 people. And one core point is not everyone should be forced to say “something”, one should speak if they have anything relevant to add.

        I’ve had many meetings where it’s just opening the board, asking everyone if everything looks good or anything blocked, everyone says it seems good and the meeting is ended in 2 minutes.