The decision brings the party closer to the Nationals, which ditched its support for the target earlier this month amid internal turmoil over the Coalition's policy.

Majority of Liberals wanted net zero gone
The shadow ministry met for about three hours on Thursday morning to set the path forward, a day after Liberal MPs and senators converged on Canberra for a mammoth net-zero-themed party room meeting.

Each of the 49 members present on Wednesday was offered five minutes to speak on the topic, and while there was no formal vote, Liberals all agreed that there were more people opposed to the target than in favour.

See - this is a serious problem: As a result of the party’s shoddy stance on climate, despite the electorate making it crystal clear they want this, they’re listening internally the few members who were elected - and not all the members who failed to be elected.

How can the party look at the success of the Teal movement, which is essentially ‘Liberals who care about climate’, and not see the picture being painted? Surely you should look at all the seats you didn’t win and ask “why?”

  • Fergie434@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    24 days ago

    Turnbulls NBN fuckery was a fucking disgrace.

    Libs in the 90s(?) sold the copper network to Telstra. Only for Telstra to let it fall into disrepair.

    Then these chucklefucks come up with the dumb fuck fibre + copper network, then have to pay Telstra for the copper network again. Just to have to fix it up, and run copper again in the fucking 2010s.

    Only to just fucking rip it all out again to put fibre in as they should’ve done in the first place.

    What a fucking waste, still salty about it to this day.

    Any time someone says “nah turnbulls alright” I give them this story and they’re usually like “what a cunt” in the end.

    • Nath@aussie.zoneOP
      3·
      22 days ago

      You won’t often catch me defending Telstra, but here goes: they didn’t let the copper network fall into disrepair. They did genuinely maintain it at a standard that was pretty close to if not as good as what Telstra did. Those copper cables though were designed for telephony and never designed for the Internet. Some of that copper is over 100 years old. If all the lines needed to handle were plain old telephone, Telstra was doing ok.

      We’ll never know whether Telecom would have gone to the Internet at all, as they were a telephone company. I can see Telecom in that alternate universe being all-in on mobile Internet though. It’s an interesting thought discussion.

    • No1@aussie.zone
      2·
      21 days ago

      There’s a theory I’ve seen that it was to help Murdoch and Telstra.

      Murdoch and Telstra owned Foxtel. Telstra also owned the HFC cable that Foxtel used to transmit it’s pay tv.

      Now, Netflix, and online sports viewing was becoming possible and popular via the internet. And with faster internet, everyone would be able to do it. And they wouldn’t be locked in to Telstra for fast HFC cable internet, or for Foxtel for it’s entertainment or sports content. Foxtel was also under attack from the introduction of Digital Television, which was providing broader content and sports

      So, Murdoch and Telstra had 2 problems:

      • The implementation of fibre to the home would leave them with obsolete copper and HFC physical assets worth nothing.
      • Foxtel was not ready with it’s internet centric apps and distribution. They didn’t launch Foxtel Play until Aug 2013 and it only handled SD playback, and 2017 for HD with Foxtel Now. Kayo Sports launched in 2018, and Binge in 2020. BUT competitors already were mature in 2010. Uh-oh! My subscribers!

      So, how would a government solve to appease these people?

      • You make the NBN a ‘multi-technology’ strategy.
      • You buy up the copper and HFC assets that will be worthless from Telstra for billions.
      • You make everything as complex as possible so that implementation will be slower, buying Foxtel more time to transfer their business processes and apps to the internet, while at the same time hamstringing their competitors

      “Sooner, cheaper and more affordably” became later, more expensive and at much higher cost.

      It’s only 2025 that Murdoch sold out of Foxtel due to a ‘strategic review’. An inevitable end that would have come much sooner if not for Turdbull and Abutt.