• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    This post has the word Capitalism™ written at the top. The USSR had a massive prison industrial complex which still holds the record for highest percentage of population imprisoned on earth, the CCP and Cuba are dystopian nightmares.

    • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.comBanned
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      3 months ago

      Lmfao thanks for not arguing against inequality, which was the point of the post, and moving the goalposts to “vague authoritarianism during WW2” because I literally proved you wrong with real-world data.

      The USSR had a massive prison industrial complex

      Simply not true. The USSR GULAG system was essentially dismantled during the 1950s, when the Nazi threat was eliminated, and the imprisonment rates dropped dramatically afterwards. Mass imprisonment was a temporary measure imposed from the threat of Nazi sabotage of the country, and it was a dark chapter of the Soviet Union that lasted less than two decades, whereas the socialist experiment lasted 70+ years. This is in opposition to an actual ever-growing prison industrial complex like that of the USA, which is systematic because it generates immense wealth for some corporations.

      the CCP and Cuba are dystopian nightmares.

      Poor Cubans, enjoying higher life expectancy than the USA, highest number of doctors per capita IN THE WORLD, and recently passing a Democratic referendum to reform the constitution in order to enshrine LGBTQ rights. Poor Chinese, seeing increases of 5% of consumer power yearly with an average inflation of 0%, truly harrowing.

      Stop spreading false CIA propaganda, the community is called “actual socialism”, not “USA propagandized left-punching faux-socialism”.

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          3 months ago

          I explicitly said Maoist China. China’s wealth inequality has risen since the market reforms.

          Regardless: the Communist Party of China controls 60% of the stock market and has powerful direction over the economy; it’s the largest producer of Electric Vehicles and batteries, and produces 93% of the world’s Solar Photovoltaic modules, has an extensive high speed electric railway network, promotes reforestation projects in China and abroad, builds civil infrastructure in the global south, and hasn’t carried out wars, sabotages, economic blockades or invasions of any country in the past 40 years. Also, the Chinese people enjoy the highest degree of satisfaction with their government of any country in the world. Sure, they’re not my ideal form of government, in that private companies exist, inequality is still comparatively high, and healthcare and education aren’t completely free as was the case in the Soviet Union, and importantly they’re not helping emancipatory anticolonial projects to the degree that the Soviet Union did.

          However, the Chinese model of government is still orders of magnitude than what we have in the west, not just inward but especially outward. Call it by the words you wanna call it, but Socialism with Chinese characteristics is still much better than what we have in the west.

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            3 months ago

            Nothing has effectively changed since Mao, the same exact CCP is in charge of China, in fact real estate rentals continued even after Mao’s famous execution spree.

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              3 months ago

              Proving that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Market economy had been essentially abolished under Mao, and the Deng Xiaoping reforms brought back a market economy. This is a huge change, hardly “nothing changed since Mao”