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NightOwl@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

Israelis blame gov’t for Hamas massacre, say Netanyahu must resign - poll

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Israelis blame gov’t for Hamas massacre, say Netanyahu must resign - poll

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  • Nougat@kbin.social
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    EDIT: There is no source available for this poll, or for any “Dialog Center.”

    An overwhelming majority of 86% of respondents, including 79% of coalition supporters, said the surprise attack from Gaza is a failure of the country’s leadership.

    But … this is because of the failure of Netanyahu to prevent the attacks (among other failures), not because they think the Israeli government is treating Palestinians unjustly.

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      • Nougat@kbin.social
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        More digging for source material makes this not even worth arguing about.

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      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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        Just some rando on the internet.

    • lettruthout@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, this is the point I keep wondering about. What was the expectation? People only take so much injustice before snapping.

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        They expected a few bombings now and then, mostly stopped by the good guys from movies.

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    The only place Bibi belongs is behind bars

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    I’m always skeptical of articles that don’t link the poll results directly. For all we know, the poll question could be something like “on a scale of 1-10, how much responsibility does such and such bear” with them counting anything a 2 and above as saying that party is to blame.

    Anyone have a link to the actual poll results?

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      I’m digging around on this, and what I am finding is sorely lacking.

      Everyone is referencing a “Dialog Center poll [or survey] released Thursday,” and most reporting refers back to this JPost article. Nobody links to the report. Nobody links generally to any “Dialog Center.”

      The only “Dialog Center” that I can find is Dialog Center International, which is described as “a Christian counter-cult organization.” And its website/domain (according to Wikipedia) is not even registered.

      So we have JPost referencing a poll taken by an organization which - so far as I can tell - may or may not even exist. This is propaganda.

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      Isreali citizens are pretty discreet on the social networks regarding critics about their gov. We don’t see them going in Jerusalem or Haifa demonstrating against this fucking massacre.

      Of course not, they feel and by evidence superior to us, mere mortals.

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    Netanyahu has been a big fan and supporter of Hamas

    “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy"

    • https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1711329340804186619

    • https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-11/ty-article/.premium/netanyahu-needed-a-strong-hamas/0000018b-1e9f-d47b-a7fb-bfdfd8f30000

    • https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

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    I suspect the political peril he’s in will encourage him to take more drastic action against Gaza than he otherwise would have to get back popular opinion. Seems like he’s going to level the northern half.

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      Agreed.

      But wouldn’t it be cheaper to just herd them all into gas chambers? /s

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        Well they can’t go full mask off

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        Because counterattacking and annexing lands from a hostile enemy territory is the same thing as genocidal mass murder against civilians? Please. The only ones attempting Genocide here is Hamas. They have been quite explicit about that, and just recently once again demonstrated their willingness to slaughter civilians. The only reason Palestine exists is because Israel is unwilling to play by the same rulebook.

        • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.world
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          …Palestine exists

          Not according to Israel.

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          Do you enjoy being wrong or is it just a state of mind?

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            Explain why I’m wrong.

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              I agree with your sentiment that Israel has a right to defend itself. That said, I think the reason folks are saying you’re wrong is because Israel just bombed the hell out of Gaza, which killed fighters and civilians alike.

              You don’t have to call it genocide, but killing indiscriminately is a pretty thin line.

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    This seems to mean they blame the government for lack of “security” before the attack, which could mean they just want more apartheid.

    And “must resign after the war” is way different than “must resign.” Any leader, but especially an authoritarian, would read this and say “Guess I should never end the war, then.”

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    Ask him politely to resign i’m sure he will consider it

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    See, even the Jews get it; why don’t the Libs on Lemmy?

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