This would save young Americans from going into crippling debt, but it would also make a university degree completely unaffordable for most. However, in the age of the Internet, that doesn’t mean they couldn’t get an education.

Consider the long term impact of this. There are a lot of different ways such a situation could go, for better and for worse.

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    The loans are not just a symptom. Is probably the main cause of current college prices. Prices would not be so high if students would not be given money to pay them.

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      They are the cause for the high tuition. I don’t have it on me, but I saw a graph showing that when Biden made Student Loans impossible to forgive via Bankruptcy, the prices for tuition positively skyrocketed.

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        when Biden made Student Loans impossible to forgive via Bankruptcy

        That’s a curious way to describe Republican-led, bipartisan legislation with where Biden was one of 18 Democratic votes in the Senate.

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            He was still only a single yes vote on a bill that only 25 Democrats voted against, and it most certainly was not his bill.

            The original claim was “Biden made Student Loans impossible to forgive via Bankruptcy.” You can argue that Biden could have or should have done more on the topic but attributing this solely to him is just ridiculous, and that’s before delving into the reasons why a senator with a reputation for working across the aisle and building consensus might strategically accept provisions he doesn’t really like in a bill in order to achieve other, higher priorities.

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              I had edited my post to add that he didn’t do it himself but was critical in getting in passed. Perhaps you started your reply before my edit.

              I would have settled for him having done less in getting it passed. Your version of what happened or may have happened is way too charitable to Biden. He was known for being very friendly to banks and credit card companies, as a Senator from Delaware would be inclined to be, considering that Delaware is home to many of those types of businesses.

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                He was known for being very friendly to banks and credit card companies, as a Senator from Delaware would be inclined to be, considering that Delaware is home to many of those types of businesses.

                Is it? Visa is in San Francisco, Discover is in Illinois, and Mastercard and Amex are in New York.

                JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, and Morgan Stanley are in New York. Bank of America is in Charlotte. Wells Fargo is in San Francisco. Those are the nation’s six largest banks. Delaware doesn’t make an appearance until #94 on the biggest bank list.

                Delaware is a popular state for essentially paperwork, due primarily to its efficient and well-established Chancery Court, but it’s not really a major player in the banking industry. There aren’t a many people or businesses in Delaware involved in banking beyond the local branch stuff in every community.

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                  Yes, it is. Visa and Mastercard are not card issuers. Example: “Visa does not issue cards, extend credit or set rates and fees for consumers; rather, Visa provides financial institutions with Visa-branded payment products that they then use to offer credit, debit, prepaid and cash access programs to their customers.”

                  This article provides details of why Delaware is attractive to banks (various financial and legal incentives), how it became that way (legislation written by major bank lawyers), and some ways it benefits from this (jobs, tax revenue).

                  Biden didn’t earn the nickname “The Senator from MBNA” for no reason. MBNA was a huge credit card company that was later bought[?] by Bank of America. “Over the past 20 years [as of 2008], MBNA has been Biden’s single largest contributor.”

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                    Visa and Mastercard are not card issuers.

                    Yes, I’m quite aware of that but you said “banks and credit card companies” so I also included, well, credit card companies.

                    This article provides details of why Delaware is attractive to banks

                    The article points out that all of those paperwork incorporations of companies that are nominally based in Delaware don’t equate to that many jobs because the companies are actually based elsewhere. Delaware is a bit player in the banking industry.

                    Anyway, this is veering way off topic. The point is that Biden did not make student loans bankruptcy-proof. You can’t attribute bipartisan legislation to a single non-sponsor, minority-party member who happened to vote for it. I don’t care if he changed his middle name to “I love big banks.” The original statement was still ridiculous.