• PyroNeurosis@lemmy.world
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      Did they? I was under the impression they came in, did a conquer, and basically left with the conquered understanding that the horde’d be back for their tribute.

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        Yeah they obliterated smaller outside towns to scare the bigger cities into giving them shit. They killed a lot but I’m not sure it counts as genocide since the eradication of people wasn’t the point.

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          Tell that to the something like 50 million people they killed while doing so.

          You have to be deeply ignorant, or some kind of idiot, to give the Mongols a pass while condemning western Europeans.

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            I’m not giving anyone a “pass” to genocide, only attempting to be very clear about what the precise definition of it is.

            Everyone killing people for their stuff sucks, but humans were doing that shit forever.

            Not every generation was loading specific people into trains and camps just to gather them for removal from the genetic code.

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          Genocides are largely determined by the desire to exterminate a specific group.

          Every time the Mongols said “fuck these people in particular, kill the whole city” it was a genocide.

          They just didn’t do much in the way of the type we’re most familiar with, ethnic or religious “cleansing,” but many of the cities were effectively their own cultures if nothing else.

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            No that’s just called war mongering.

            Genocide would require them finding out the culture and ethnicity of the people living in those cities, and then specifically targeting them everywhere they went JUST BECAUSE of their ethnicity and cultures.

            Mongols just massacred every living thing including your pets and cattle so they could build skull towers out of them to terrify the main city into paying tribute to their “power”.

            I’ve noticed this a lot in recent times where people seem to attempt to redefine what a genocide is, and I’d caution you to be careful throwing around the word so casually, lest you erode the meaning of it further.