Two other Democrats have now joined Kirsten Gillibrand in falsely accusing the Muslim mayoral candidate for New York City of supporting calls for violence against Jews.
Very few revolutions succeed overnight (without then making things worse than before). The way that people gave up after Bernie got cheated, and figured “welp let’s leave things on autopilot then, I am discouraged now that we know the people on top are willing to cheat to hold onto power, that’s unfair and I don’t want to play anymore”, is some lazy soft first world part time activism crap.
(And yes, I am equally part of the problem, not trying to point fingers just agreeing with you more or less. Things build over time. The more you push the more they build.)
The great Bernie blocks of 2016 and 2020 did not destroy my hope for revolution, but they did prove to me that the national DNC will never be the route to that revolution. Mamdani is showing us the way: grassroots local politics, build the base by pushing progressive policies on the local level. I suspect the establishment Dems still have more levers to pull if they want to block Mamdani’s policies once he is in office. If we want revolution, we gotta support him and fight to prevent these blocks. Primary any Rep or senator that tries to prevent him from helping the common person.
EDITED - (this changed a bit while I replied but I don’t like to delete things as I find it confusing later but needless thanks for expanding a bit and making it more clear that people did work for change and continue to)
who gave up? As far as the canidate in one primary we went forward but that was the start of a lot of momentum in primaries for progressive candidates. Every time I see something about giving up it feels so disingenuous to those who while working within the system still try to change it.
I was talking, obliquely, about the people on Lemmy pre-election who used “Democrats betrayed Bernie” as a reason to make the argument “politics is pointless, let’s not vote.”
If you’re saying those people don’t represent actual progressive activism (which has, I agree, been making more and more inroads every year as things get progressively worse and worse and their momentum builds), I will agree with you completely.
Honestly im never sure, especially with the internet, how many of those are sincere individuals and how much might be intentional trolls looking to muck things up. I personally do not know people who do not vote democrat because of they all the same fud or such.
I saw people at an anti-Trump protest who were getting up and yelling about how it was largely the Democrats’ fault and it was important not to reward them with our votes. That’s the only person I’ve ever seen in person who thinks this way, yes, but I have seen it a nonzero number of times.
It’s almost all an internet thing, just in general. Every single political person I know in person is more or less either pro-Democrat or pro-Trump, or else wholly anti-US in all respects, the sophisticated leftist viewpoint is almost entirely an internet thing for me.
Very few revolutions succeed overnight (without then making things worse than before). The way that people gave up after Bernie got cheated, and figured “welp let’s leave things on autopilot then, I am discouraged now that we know the people on top are willing to cheat to hold onto power, that’s unfair and I don’t want to play anymore”, is some lazy soft first world part time activism crap.
(And yes, I am equally part of the problem, not trying to point fingers just agreeing with you more or less. Things build over time. The more you push the more they build.)
The great Bernie blocks of 2016 and 2020 did not destroy my hope for revolution, but they did prove to me that the national DNC will never be the route to that revolution. Mamdani is showing us the way: grassroots local politics, build the base by pushing progressive policies on the local level. I suspect the establishment Dems still have more levers to pull if they want to block Mamdani’s policies once he is in office. If we want revolution, we gotta support him and fight to prevent these blocks. Primary any Rep or senator that tries to prevent him from helping the common person.
Yeah, 100% agree. See also David Hogg, who tried to reform the DNC from within, and how well that turned out.
The DNC is rotten with big donor money, they will never kick that habit. Excited to see what Hogg does next!
EDITED - (this changed a bit while I replied but I don’t like to delete things as I find it confusing later but needless thanks for expanding a bit and making it more clear that people did work for change and continue to)
who gave up? As far as the canidate in one primary we went forward but that was the start of a lot of momentum in primaries for progressive candidates. Every time I see something about giving up it feels so disingenuous to those who while working within the system still try to change it.
I was talking, obliquely, about the people on Lemmy pre-election who used “Democrats betrayed Bernie” as a reason to make the argument “politics is pointless, let’s not vote.”
If you’re saying those people don’t represent actual progressive activism (which has, I agree, been making more and more inroads every year as things get progressively worse and worse and their momentum builds), I will agree with you completely.
Honestly im never sure, especially with the internet, how many of those are sincere individuals and how much might be intentional trolls looking to muck things up. I personally do not know people who do not vote democrat because of they all the same fud or such.
I saw people at an anti-Trump protest who were getting up and yelling about how it was largely the Democrats’ fault and it was important not to reward them with our votes. That’s the only person I’ve ever seen in person who thinks this way, yes, but I have seen it a nonzero number of times.
It’s almost all an internet thing, just in general. Every single political person I know in person is more or less either pro-Democrat or pro-Trump, or else wholly anti-US in all respects, the sophisticated leftist viewpoint is almost entirely an internet thing for me.