Hello! I’m getting a new (windows) laptop that I’ll mainly be using for writing text documents, surfing the web, and basically doing studenty things. I thought I’d use the chance to give linux a try since I’m too scared to jump in head first and trying to move everything over on my main computer. I’m not tech savvy at all but after watching a lot of videos explaining the basics and reading the guides here to help beginners pick a distribution, I think I’ve narrowed it down to either Linux Mint Cinnamon or Ubuntu (leaning towards Kubuntu because it looks a lot like Windows).
The two big things for me are 1. I don’t want to use the command window for everything, or really much of anything, at least at the start. and 2. I currently use Proton VPN and I’d like to use it on this new laptop too. Unfortunately, based on what I saw on the Proton website, if I want to use it on linux it looks like the only way is to get it on Ubuntu, Debian, or Fedora using the console. I don’t really want to switch away from Proton VPN right now, so while I’m sure there are other vpns that are more linux-friendly, that will have to be something I consider in the future. So, does this mean I should use Ubuntu? And will Kubuntu work or would I have to use a different version of Ubuntu? And is there no way to get Proton without using the console?
A few less important considerations for me are if I’m able to change to a custom mouse pointer (I currently use a cute one that I’d like to also use on the new laptop) and if keyboard shortcuts like alt-tabbing work or are easily configurable. If none of the beginner friendly distros support those then it’s fine, but they would be nice.
Also, I’m kind of confused about how updating things works on linux. Will I be able to easily update to a new version of whatever distro I’m using? Do I even want to update to the newest version? And is there a way to be notified and set auto-updates for some applications? I’ve seen quite a few threads and questions about having to manually update things, but if I get an application from the software manager then will it be as easy as a clicking a button?
I know I’ll have to adjust and just learn-by-doing some things no matter which distro I pick, and I’m willing to try out some other distros in the future. I just want to ease my way into things. So based on all that, should I just go for Linux Mint like most new users? Or would you recommend a completely different distro?
Just for reference, uhhh how easy is it to fuck up the process of trying and then installing a linux distro? Like completely-make-the-computer-unusable fuck up? Because that’s my biggest fear
P.s. I’m sorry to make another “what distro do I use” thread, but I had some questions that I didn’t see answers for in the other threads. And honestly, I’ll feel a lot more comfortable with switching if I feel like I’ve actually talked it out with people who know what they’re doing.
With many of the modern distros, you can get a long way without a lot of command line work. But, some interaction will likely still be inevitable. However, most distros include either flatpak or snap, which lets you download, install and update software via the Graphical User Interface (GUI). So, there shouldn’t be too much command line work required.
It looks like Proton officially supports Ubuntu. And I would note that it expects the GNOME desktop, not KDE. So, Kubuntu will likely run into issues (probably the same issues as Mint). That said, they also have a page on installing on Linux Mint which seems to indicate skipping a single step. There are also guides out there for installing Proton VPN, without using the terminal.
As an aside, unless you need a VPN to securely access a remote network, shift your apparent location or for downloading/sharing copyrighted works, consider saving the money and not paying for a VPN. They are mostly just a waste of money for the average user. Sorry, I’ll get off my soapbox now.
Just going with Ubuntu might be easier and it’s the officially supported distro. If you run into a problem, you may have trouble getting support on an unsupported distro. That said, it looks like getting it running on Mint/Kubuntu seems easy enough and works. I’m personally a fan of the KDE desktop (this is where the “K” in Kubuntu comes from) and think it makes the Windows->Linux transition somewhat better.
Yup, you can change the mouse pointer. Not sure if you can import your current one, but that’s going to depend on the format and where you got it.
You’ll find many of the shortcuts work the same. Even the ones using the “Windows” key are mostly similar, though you’ll see it referred to as the “Meta” key. Alt-Tab as an example works exactly the same. And yes, they are configurable.
So, edging back onto my soapbox for a sec (you can safely skip this whole paragraph, if you want), the software ecosystem in Linux is a mess at the moment. It’s very much the XKCD Standards situation. First, you will likely have the main OS way to update the OS and software. For Ubuntu, this will be via .deb packages. You’ll update these via a command like
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade. The you will have one or more other package managers for containerized packages. This will be flatpak or snap. Why do we have one (or both) of these? Well, like a lot of standards fuckery it comes down to some very good technical reasons and nerds thinking that they are going to be the one to provide the “One True Solution”. And of course, that’s why we now have multiple completing standards. And then you get AppImage based software for developers who don’t want to be bothered with package managers and who hate security.(non-soapbox answer) Yes, updating is usually pretty easy, but it may involve updating in more than one place. At minimum, you’re likely to need to do OS updates via something like the
aptcommands and also updating via flatpak.Mostly yes and absolutely yes. For the distro upgrade here’s an example (not my blog) for the latest Mint upgrade. Pretty simple stuff. As for “Do I even want to update to the newest version?”, tip number one for keeping your system secure is: install your updates. This is true regardless of what OS you’re on. Please, if you install it, keep it up to date. This is what happens when people neglect updates.
Yes, and probably best to just turn on automatic updates and forget about it.
Yes, if you install from the software manager (behind the fancy name, this will be either flatpak or snap in Mint or Kubuntu) updates will be a one-click affair. Or better yet, automagically handled, if you turn that on. Turn that on.
Unfortunately yes, there will be a learning curve. But, I promise it’s not so bad and it’s completely worth it. And there are lots of folks here who will be happy to help (and a few jerks who will scream “RTFM!”, sorry about those, they suck.). If things get too bad, you can always go back to Windows, you have a license and it’s pretty easy to reinstall these days.
It’s really, really, really hard to get the computer completely fucked up and unusable, just by changing the OS. Seriously, the most likely way you would do this is by dumping your drink of choice in the keyboard because you got distracted. The great thing about software is that it is very rarely permanent. And nothing you’re doing here would be permanent. Go wild and try try a new distro. If things don’t work out, going back to Windows isn’t hard at all.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that Mint is great choice and the one I’d recommend. While I don’t use it myself (I hate myself, so I use Arch), it’s got a solid reputation, is designed to make the transition from Windows easier and uses KDE for the interface (don’t worry if that last bit doesn’t make sense, just roll with it). There is also a lot of support available here on Lemmy and across the web.