• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 hours ago

    You don’t have to pay for people’s transport if they come to see your giftshop loot, but you do have to show it them for free.

    No. Selling on eBay is not allowed. In fact, once you have started your collection you are expected to pay for all future additions to your collection (although you may get donations).

    Your shoplifting metaphor ignored the curation, storage and display responsibilities. It also assumed resale which, in the British Museum’s case, hasn’t occurred.

    • Anomalocaris@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      6 hours ago

      I still get to control who gets in (visa)

      i see the problem, you’re assuming I’m the British museum in the metaphor, but I’m more like the UK in the metaphor.

      And there are plenty of artifacts from the museum that ended up in ebay, but don’t worry, the museum promised they will investigate themselves whenever it happens.

      Why is a foreign entity, gets to decide what to do with stolen artifacts?

      could I rob a bank, and when they catch me I can blame the bank for low security,.and not have to return anything because I will allow some people to come to my house and show them some bank stationary I also stole? while keeping the money for myself and do with it as I please. while pinky promising to not use the money I stole, but there’s no oversight or consequences if I don’t.

      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        4 hours ago

        I still get to control who gets in (visa)

        You don’t control country visas. Neither does the British Museum.

        i see the problem, you’re assuming I’m the British museum in the metaphor, but I’m more like the UK in the metaphor.

        Ah OK. Then I’m confused what the “UK giftshop” represents, and also what are you stealing from it.

        Why is a foreign entity, gets to decide what to do with stolen artifacts?

        A good, but different question. We are straying from the question of being morally able to steal from the British Museum giftshop.

        could I rob a bank, and when they catch me I can blame the bank for low security,.and not have to return anything because I will allow some people to come to my house and show them some bank stationary I also stole?

        The standard response is that you are a white hat bank robber, and you will return the bank assets once they beef up security. But the Greek bank has done this and still doesn’t have it’s assets back.

        • Anomalocaris@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 hours ago

          Half the issue is the British museum, and the other is the British government,

          but as a result, we have stolen artifacts being kept for selfish and racist reasons.

          like ,we got them, and you guys cannot be trusted with your own history.

          As long as the country in question aren’t currently in a serious crisis, artifacts should be returned.

          • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 hours ago

            I broadly agree. For example, the elgin marbles should be returned (after multiple copies have been made). The British Museum will never truly “own” their artifacts. The Rosetta Stone will never be British.

            But remember, I was answering about stealing from the giftshop. You would never own or be able to sell anything stolen from it.