• centof@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    So if some random group comes in your home and throws all your stuff outside in the rain to destroy it, According to you they are being peaceful? Very peaceful behavior, Indeed.

    • TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip
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      2 days ago

      I mean, yes. Violence involves physically harming people (or threatening to), not property. At least by WHO’s definition. So I mean the point being that most of these protests are not violent, just maybe destructive (and even then, most people are not being destructive.) the violence comes from the police, or literally florida saying they WILL kill you.

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        3 hours ago

        Good point about how these protests aren’t really violent. I think there’s a distinction between peaceful and violence. Property destruction is not peaceful behavior but it is not necessarily violent or always morally unjustified in my opinion. Context matters with violence a lot.

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        2 days ago

        That’s what has been infuriating me about any news coverage of any protest anywhere. They treat property with the moral equivalence of newborns. They treat property with more compassion than the common people.

        • centof@lemm.ee
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          3 hours ago

          Relevant quote- “If you’re not careful, the media will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” - George Carlin

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      2 days ago

      So you’re defending the East India Trading Co and the British Empire?

      Really?

      So much for anti-capitalism and anti-imperialism I guess. Literally the worst examples of either: But don’t destwoy de pwoperty boo hoo!

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        3 hours ago

        I didn’t mention them at all. I was using sarcasm to show how ridiculous it is to claim destroying stuff is peaceful. As for right now, I think a lot of yelling and a little bit of property damage is a whole a very valid even if tame response to violent kidnapping of your neighbors.

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          Sons of Liberty activists boarded the Dartmouth, a British ship that had docked in Boston carrying a major shipment of East India Company tea, and set about throwing 342 chests of the tea into Boston Harbor.

          I didn’t mention them at all.

          Then, in your analogy, who’s home was “broken in to” and who’s property was “thrown in the rain to be destroyed?”

          You mentioned them analogously, clearly.

          But fine, it’s technically not peaceful to resist the world’s largest regime by salting their tea, I suppose.

          • centof@lemm.ee
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            2 hours ago

            The commenter I replied to. I was using a hypothetical situation to refute his claim that the tea party was peaceful. Violent actions aren’t always unjust and vis versa.

            • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Tbf I still wouldn’t call it “violent,” violent and peaceful are not a binary choice, things can be not peaceful but also not violent. I’ll accept that wasting tea isn’t peaceful, but you’ll never convince me it’s violent.

              At this point I’m suspecting you’re just criminally British and see assault against tea as the highest form of treason, or should I say teason.

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                Tbf I still wouldn’t call it “violent,” violent and peaceful are not a binary choice, things can be not peaceful but also not violent. I’ll accept that wasting tea isn’t peaceful, but you’ll never convince me it’s violent.

                Yep, That’s like the point I made in another comment. I only originally implied that the tea party wasn’t peaceful(using sarcasm), that doesn’t mean I thought it was violent.

                At this point I’m suspecting you’re just criminally British and see assault against tea as the highest form of treason, or should I say teason.

                Is what I get for not putting the /s with the obvious sarcasm? smh

                If it makes you happy to imagine me as an ye old British tea enjoyer outraged about tea parties 300 years ago go for it lol.