So recently there was a controversy with a bunch of live streamers leaving twitch or duel streaming to Kick.Com.
However people dislike Kick saying it is less ethical then Twitch so what is the deal with that ?
Well, it’s quite simple really:
- Kick has very little moderation. Pirate streams and gambling streams abound on Kick
- The worst people who got banned from YouTube and Twitch continue to stream on Kick and who wants to be associated with that?
- Kick is owned by a gambling company. Seriously think about it for more than 10 seconds, the service is entirely built on AWS which costs so much even Twitch which is literally owned by Amazon can’t turn a profit. Venture capital ain’t handing out free money to super unprofitable companies right now so they clearly are making money somewhere, and that somewhere is gambling
Kick is owned by a gambling company; and they pretty much allow anything gambling related. They use the platform as a promotion method for their sites, so they attract streamers by giving rates Twitch can’t even come close to.
Twitch is owned by Amazon one of the biggest companies in human history they are not the underdog they could give more money if they wanted.
Yes, but for a business perspective, profit gears need to be turned in one way or another. Since Amazon wants Twitch the platform itself to be profitable, the rates need to be adjusted like that to make even. Kick is pretty much part of the advertisement budget for Stake, and for big online casinos that, losing out Kick’s profit isn’t really a problem, as long as it drives people to them.
Maybe it has something to do with money. From what I understand, Kick.com pays something like 95/5 to the streamer vs. 70/30 with YouTube and 50/50 with Twitch. The founders of Kick.com have shady backgrounds and they have less moderation which attracts those streamers accused of homophobic, misogynistic, and predatory behavior.
edit: corrected numbers
I think all it is. Is that the Twitch loyalist like Hasan Piker and Pokemane either like Twitch,the community and staff or more likely have exclusivity deals and don’t want to lose their viewership to Kick.
That is fine I guess but stop trying t make it a proletarian struggle
The founders of Kick are not really Shady. They are very out loud and proud it’s Serbian Australian Ed Craven AKA Eddie and an Iranian Bijan Tehrani. They just seem like guys I guess IDK what’s shady about them.
As a leftist I will say that Kick does seem to be right win coded in the sense they don’t moderate as much which generally benefits the right look at 4chan,X and Kiwi Farms.
Dude your OP is a lie if you know all this about Kick.
You’re clearly pushing a biased narrative that Kick isn’t hot Nazi garbage. Aren’t you embarrassed?
the only stuff I watch on Kick is the Kino Casino and Mad at the Internet
Why you got to bootlick a streaming site so hard? Pathetic
That is the worst part
the kick people are loyal to Kick for reasons they like the revenue split or the fact it’s either there or nothing
the twitch people are loyal to Twitch because it’s Twitch
My main point was it is probably about the money. Afterall, streaming is a business and a difference between what site pays versus the other can be huge.
I then added about the shadiness, agreeing with what you wrote in the OP that “people dislike Kick saying it is less ethical.” I will expand upon that idea since you are accusing me of having an “proletarian” agenda. The “shady” part is based on the founder’s background in online gambling (stake.com), particularly crypto gambling, as ethically questionable due to potential for addiction, financial ruin, and regulatory grey areas. Also, the purpose of Kick, especially in the early days, was suspected to be a way to funnel traffic to Stake.com.
Even more, with the shadiness, Kick’s stated goal is “creator-friendly” moderation and avoiding “cancel culture,” the effect of their looser policies has been that controversial streamers (especially those who lean right or have been associated with right-wing talking points) find a more welcoming home there. This leads to the “right-wing coded” perception.
Streamers weigh both the financial elements and the ethical environment when choosing a platform. For many, Kick’s controversies make it more complex.
Many streamers on kick are predators
Kick has allowed pretty much anything to be streamed, never permanently banning people who constantly stream themselves breaking laws like drinking and driving using hate speech and among other heinous shit.
Twitch allows law breakers to stream
Extra Emily for example streamed herself running a red light which is a crime she wasn’t banned. She was also streaming while driving against Twitch tos but again not banned
Hasan pike was recently standing in the road to block it that is against California law and is a dangerous illegal activity to Twitch tos yet he isn’t banned.
I haven’t looked into it but if it’s anything like the Rumble “controversy” it’s that streamers/personalities they don’t like/disagree with/despise aren’t immediately banned/blocked/cancelled.
