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    You know how in totalitarian regimes, they used to burn book and silence, disappear or imprison people who spoke certain things?

    Whenever there is war, thought regulation gets really strict.

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      thought regulation gets really strict.

      US population specifically but any large empire really, the wrong think gets suppressed via media. they just do with more finesse. US used to be especially good at it. I am not sure what happened but it appears they are looking to switch to Russia/China style of control.

      But they clearly are looking to put the boot on people’s neck and we got third of the country cheering it on. suburban trash and faux rednecks is hellva of base.

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        the MSMs are all under control by conservative billionaires, thats why theres an extreme shift, just like with CNN. they are looking to trick moderates, and people that dont really pay attetion, basically fox-lite channels.

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    Isnt radio free a propaganda tool set up by the US or am i thinking of a different one they pump into north korea?

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      Radio Liberty and Radio Free Europe are good for learning the U.S. State Department’s approved perspective on a given issue.

      The organization was founded to serve the goals of the Cold War and was indeed a CIA front. The secretive CIA support ended in the 70s I think and the org now works with the official U.S. government outlet, Voice of America.

      Radio Free Asia is similar but a separate and legally distinct non-profit organization that started after the end of the Cold War to carry on the mission.

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    Isn’t the Israel is hostile to middle east/central asia, and trying to start a major war with iran, like .ml friendly narrative? This seems to jive with that.

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          all fake news is propaganda, some fake new is US propaganda, Radio Free whatever is US state department sanctioned propaganda targeted at foreigners similar to Russia today or whatever sheepooh is running for CCP

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            I don’t think it’s fake news. US propaganda is very sophisticated and it usually focuses on the facts—at least, the ones they want you to know. But it being directly created by and for the benefit of the US government sets it apart from other types of biased media. It’s understandable to me why it might be viewed with suspicion, despite being factual. Good propaganda can speak only truth yet very effectively mislead people.

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              A lot of Radio Free Asia literally is fake news. Most of their “sources” are anonymous/unnamed. They’re just, “trust me bro.” They make stuff up all the time, especially about North Korea, because they know no one’s going to fact-check them.

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                especially about North Korea,

                Oh boy, let me guess DPRK is actually a utopia that’s being kept secret from everyone amiright?

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              fake news = propaganda. i guess at the end of the day everything is propaganda. i shill here all day.

              i guess if you define fake news = factually wrong information, i will agree with your position.

              but as you said, skilled propagandist will use factual information to misinform the target.

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                I guess I don’t like the way that term has come to be used. Fake news to me would be something wholly fabricated without any basis in reality. This type of coverage is actually fairly uncommon outside of fringe sources.

                We have other, more specific words to describe coverage that is biased or created specifically to influence people but is describing real events. Why not use them instead? The term fake news has itself become propaganda. By which I mean, information or news intentionally designed to influence people in a specific way. I don’t agree that all news falls into this category, though it does have other types of bias.

                But yeah I mean I also engage in propaganda for the causes I believe in, as do most people. But propaganda from nefarious people or organizations certainly should be viewed with suspicion.

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            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RFE/RL

            Additional considerations apply to the use of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL). RFE/RL should be used cautiously, if at all, for reporting published from the 1950s to the early 1970s, when RFE/RL had a documented relationship with the CIA.

            RFE/RL may be biased in some subject areas (particularly through omission of relevant, countervailing facts), and in those areas, it should be attributed in the article body. There is no consensus as to what subject areas require attribution. The scope of topics requiring attribution of RFE/RL should be decided on a case-by-case basis.

            It hasn’t been true for some time now and is generally found to be credible and fairly unbiased and RFA is seen in even a more positive light:

            Radio Free Asia can be generally considered a reliable source. In particularly geopolitically charged areas, attribution of its point of view and funding by the U.S. government may be appropriate. Per the result of a 2021 RfC, editors have established that there is little reason to think RFA demonstrates some systematic inaccuracy, unreliability, or level of government co-option that precludes its use.

            And MBFC:

            In contrast this is what RT looks like:

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              It hasn’t been true for some time now and is generally found to be credible and fairly unbiased

              And I have a bridge to sell you. It’s as much a CIA cut-out as it ever was.

              And MBFC

              MBFC is shite. Of course it’s going to give RT a worse rating than RFE: It’s run by an American physical therapist as his side gig.

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                And I have a bridge to sell you. It’s as much a CIA cut-out as it ever was.

                Source

                MBFC is shite. Of course it’s going to give RT a worse rating than RFE

                You’re a tagged Tankie. Cult followers angry at an org calling out their dear leaders’ propaganda outlet calls it “shit”. Next up, water is wet.

                If you think it’s shit, then provide credible sources to backup your claim.

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              My man, I watch their content, I know what they shill.

              It is a step above CNN on regime whoring scale, but under NPR and PBS.

              But all of them shill propaganda for the benefit of the owner class and their regime including US geopolitical interests around the world. In fact, RF specifically shills US geopolitical interest in a manner that the target can accept and/or get behind themselves.

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                Let’s say you’re 100% right, “Between CNN and NPR/PBS” is still not a bad spot and certainly not ban/removal worthy. Considering they turn around and allow shit like RT which spreads straight up conspiracies…

                So now, here’s question for you, what news source do you trust? Who in your mind isn’t a shill and can be trusted?

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                  i am a shill and my source is wikipedia

                  on more serious note, these new “agencies” are just old version of filters… i don’t trust any of it, just got to work with facts as they happen. propaganda taints everything else.

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        Thank you. Because of that I can also see, that this beautiful @dessalines@lemmy.ml banned me from a community, because I was saying you want to avoid at all cost to let Iran have nuclear weapons.

        Just another power trippin bastard I guess. And fuck lemmy.ml