• theprogressivist @lemmy.world
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    Most Americans are too chicken shit to give up a few days of work. I mean, look at how these 9 to 5vers bitch and complain when people protest and it inconveniences them. They’ve swallowed the propaganda so hard that they applaud the police for arresting and abusing protestors. I have very little faith in my countrymen.

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      I support a general strike but I’m a doctor that works primarily in an underserved community filled with many immigrants (illegal and otherwise). I would support other people striking, but I feel like I couldn’t possibly stop working because my role is a lifeline for workers.

    • NielsBohron@lemmy.world
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      Many people can’t miss a few days work without significant financial implications. Billionaires and corporations have us so underwater that we have no choice but to make a big stink where we can and voice our concern, with the occasional weekend march.

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        I’ll dare note that in the beginning of the previous century financial implications of such a strike for a worker were not just that, and it involved also possibly serious physical damage (without easily available surgery and care) and detention.

        I would really like to find it in myself to do something like that, it takes a certain state of mind and a certain feeling in the air, because how do you start when nobody is yet doing it.

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          I’d say part of the difference is that, at this point, the billionaires have left us with just enough to lose. I’m sure the risk of physical violence was still daunting, but when you have nothing left to lose then the prospect of physical harm somehow seems preferable to continuing with the status quo. That seems like an easy thing to say, but I’ve been there before.

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            Ah, yes, of course. That’s also the distinction of Russia’s situation from more classical kinds of fascism. Bad things happen, but the regime doesn’t put them under your nose. Intimidation happens, but there are no public executions Nazi-style. Propaganda happens, but it’s boring and one would think ineffective, except it still sticks, similar to advertising, - they’ve learned some lessons. Nazis were more interesting and imposing, but less efficient. This is state of the art.

            Same with today’s monopolies, oligopolies, rotten electoral systems, censorship.

            Everything has been optimized to the last cent. Not the good old days, when the bad guys were generous with impressions.

            Reminds me of Boussenard’s sentiment on new uniforms in his children’s book on the Boer war - no more nice glares and colors, just khaki everywhere - a symbol of efficiency, because camouflage now is treated seriously enough.

            Like Intel’s tick-tock. Worker movements and fascisms 100 years ago were the “tick”, and now is the “tock” - boring, depressing, deadly efficient.

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      This is why safety nets are important. In US you can lose your job, not get unemployment and lose access to doctor.

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        And this is why the right has been systematically dismantling all safety nets for decades.

        This is the end game…

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      It’s not that they’re chicken shit. They aren’t even against Trump’s policies.

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        That, too. Even a good portion of Dems support this stupid fucks actions and “policy.” And the word policy is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

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      Are you serious? Most Americans are scared of losing their jobs and being unable to provide for their families, including caregivers for elderly parents. Many are only a few missed payments away from having their vehicles repossessed or being evicted and becoming homeless. Some have ongoing health conditions that require insurance.

      If you have nothing to lose or you have a safety net and can stop going to work, great, good job. Most people aren’t in your position.

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        Many service members are in the same position and depend on Uncle Sam to pay their bills (and, ya know, to stay out of jail for derelicion of duty or insubordination)…hence why it might be a tad difficult to “remember their oath” and stand up against vaguely illegalish orders, which might morally preserve their soul, but crushes their ability to live. Only bringing this up because of comments in other posts related to the NG and USMC in LA, but I see a close parallel of maliciously manufactured helplessness to self-advocate.

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          It’s an intentionally designed system, so that everyone falling out of line by themselves would hurt only themselves. It’s the point of governments and militaries than everyone can be replaced.

          It was always so.

          Strikes are supposed to be “suicidal”.

          The problem is that western cultures after 60s manufactured expectation that there’s no such thing among necessary ones in life. That you live for feeling nice, comfort, good things, peaceful politics. That risking your life to make a statement won’t be required from you. That was initially counterpropaganda to communism, I think.