No, I wasn’t stoned. This thought was inspired by the post the other day about how trees evolved independently (e: multiple times) from different plants, the product of convergent evolution.

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    2 days ago

    TIL! Never heard that definition, thanks for that.

    Yeah, it’s pretty accurate and comes from the guy most equipped to talk about what consciousness is.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Hameroff

    He’s spent the last 30 years working on consciousness with literally the world’s smartest physicist if not human:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Penrose

    Like, you know how everyone knows Stephen Hawking? Penrose was the guy doing the hard science to finish up Eisntein’s work, Hawking was the “face” who explained it to people. When it was just Penrose and Hawking working on something, Hawking was the dumb guy at the table. Which is just wild.

    But for the longest time people said Hameroff and Penrose couldn’t have been right because quantum entanglement couldn’t happen somewhere as “warm and wet” as the brain. About 11 months ago we found out microtubules can not only work as tubes that can sustain entanglement, it can sustain quantum superposition.

    So, another decade or two and we should have a better answer for what consciousness is and what anesthesia actually does. But for now, that’s the best we can do