I agree, but Andrew makes a very careful distinction between leaders (in the sense discussed in the video) and bosses, and correctly identifies that there are still risks of hierarchies developing out of anarchistic leaders. One of the YouTube comments makes a point that a better word for Andrew’s concept of “leader” in his video would be “guide”. For talking about this concept in English, I agree with that commenter, but otherwise I also agree with Andrew’s take.
Oh yes, we watched it and we agree. We have to be very careful otherwise heirarchies can easily form if we aren’t fully commited to making sure they don’t.
We were part of an ‘anarchist’ group once but we left because two people became the defacto ‘leaders’ and kept telling us that we couldn’t do things without ever explaining what they meant beyond just saying that we couldn’t (in a more specific way but we don’t want to let on should they ever find this).
Between that and the red tape we don’t really trust most ‘anarchist’ ‘organisations’ and prefer to just get things done ourselves.
We were part of an ‘anarchist’ group once but we left because two people became the defacto ‘leaders’ and kept telling us that we couldn’t do things without ever explaining what they meant beyond just saying that we couldn’t (in a more specific way but we don’t want to let on should they ever find this).
That sounds like a really shitty experience. I left a (non anarchist) group recently because they tried to hide all the hidden hierarchies / differences in decision making influence, at least it felt to me like that.
We were part of an ‘anarchist’ group once but we left because two people became the defacto ‘leaders’ and kept telling us that we couldn’t do things without ever explaining what they meant beyond just saying that we couldn’t (in a more specific way but we don’t want to let on should they ever find this).
That fucking sucks. Respect for putting yourself out there into the real world. ❤️
I agree, but Andrew makes a very careful distinction between leaders (in the sense discussed in the video) and bosses, and correctly identifies that there are still risks of hierarchies developing out of anarchistic leaders. One of the YouTube comments makes a point that a better word for Andrew’s concept of “leader” in his video would be “guide”. For talking about this concept in English, I agree with that commenter, but otherwise I also agree with Andrew’s take.
Oh yes, we watched it and we agree. We have to be very careful otherwise heirarchies can easily form if we aren’t fully commited to making sure they don’t.
We were part of an ‘anarchist’ group once but we left because two people became the defacto ‘leaders’ and kept telling us that we couldn’t do things without ever explaining what they meant beyond just saying that we couldn’t (in a more specific way but we don’t want to let on should they ever find this).
Between that and the red tape we don’t really trust most ‘anarchist’ ‘organisations’ and prefer to just get things done ourselves.
That sounds like a really shitty experience. I left a (non anarchist) group recently because they tried to hide all the hidden hierarchies / differences in decision making influence, at least it felt to me like that.
It was in the end, especially because they came in and shat all over the work us and some others had done. It felt pointless at that point.
Yeah, sneakiarchy (as we call it in polyamorous circles) is the worst.
That fucking sucks. Respect for putting yourself out there into the real world. ❤️
Thanks! 🙂