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    … It’s the Southwest. People from Mexico and of Mexican ancestry live there. They feel pride for their culture. How could this logically be seen as a badthing?

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      There is a very silly argument that we shouldn’t fly foreign flags because it is giving racists ammunition for their “invading army of immigrants” claims. As if appeasing racists has historically worked to dissuage them

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        The only reason I can think that’s a good idea for protestors to fly an American flag over their more preferred flag is the optics look real bad if cops are year attacking crowds with a bunch of people flying US flags. Of course the bootlickers on the right will still justify it.

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      It’s also just very hypocritical. It has long been common for immigrants to the US to display the flags of their country of origin. There are still Irish and Italian flags here everywhere. Lots of flags used in the Asian-American community, some even for countries that no longer exist.

      Mexico has just been so long maligned by modern white Americans that they don’t believe Mexican-Americans are entitled to the same degree of cultural pride afforded to everyone else.

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      Fox News only shows the 1 or 2 stores getting looted. They don’t show the regular protesters waving flags and asking for peace.

      It’s making others scary and that’s what the dipshits I work with are seeing every day. It’s depressing.

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    I don’t understand how anyone could be a “swing voter” at this point in history. You’d have to be living under a rock in a faraday cage on mars or something

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      Talk to any MAGA. They have no idea what’s going on. If it’s not spit on Newsmax or heavy right wing podcasts…they have no idea. Just still sucking off Trump’s mushroom.

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      I mean, that’s essentially how many people live. They intermittently get their news from Instagram, and they vote based on that. Most of the information they consume is reality TV, beer advertisements, and friends showing off the new sneakers they got. They spend most of their time working and taking care of their kids (yeah, somehow they thought that was a good idea), and then they vote. They truly are the NPCs of the world.

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      Yeah, where would you vote for in NL?

      (I understand this is about the US and I am just making a joke)

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    I understand every single word and am up to date about what’s happening in LA and some other places, but can’t make sense of this. Can someone please simplify this for me?

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      Someone was pictured with Mexican flag in a striking photo and a lot of news outlets/pundits etc are making a big deal out of how it might offend the hypothetical “swing voter” to see a non-us flag associated with the protest and how its “bad optics.” This poster is saying maybe instead of endlessly speculating about what protests are doing that might offend disconnected third parties instead that effort should be spent telling these swing voters to grow up.

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        Millions of American people with Irish ancestry fly or even have the Irish flag tattooed on themselves. They even flew it in protests and marches last year over how Biden responded to the genocide in Gaza, but I’m sure that’s totally different

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          I wonder if ilovethebomb was also against the Canadian flag being flown at protests acknowledging the annexation threats? (^^as a Canadian I appreciated it)

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        I think it’s the opposite of a bad look, they are saying I’m from another country and yet I belong here. Without the flag it doesn’t highlight the multiculturalism that makes America great. I think it is important to show that they are immigrants and they have every right to be here.

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            By the same logic any pride flag should be hidden. Black people raising their fist? Should be hidden. Flying the union flag in the south? Should be hidden.

            Best not to talk about slavery, discrimination, LGBT, religious minorities and other things. You know, not to risk people misinterpreting the message.

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              The union flag is the flag of a group of who declared war with the States and tried to secede, so yeah.

              Pride flag isn’t the flag of a foreign country, so I’m not sure why you’re talking about that.

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                The union flag is the flag of a group of who declared war with the States and tried to secede, so yeah.

                What the fuck are you talking about? The ones who tried to secede were famously the Confederacy, the South. Did this motherfucker just try to “no u” the civil war?

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                  I thought they were talking about the confederates, I’m not familiar with the terminology you guys use.

                  I’m also a bit baffled why you bought this up, to be honest.

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            They don’t really care if people in protests live or die as long as they can stroke their each others prejudices.

            US was built on genocide, opression, slavery and immigrants. This vile attempt to somehow shield yourself from “messages” that offend you is what led to this mess.

            They were obviously ecstatic when Hongkong protest for democracy were waving US flags like it meant freedom and liberty. It was all awesome and sent good messages, but now, es no bueno.

            https://archive.md/9SfFG

            So much propaganda that people are worried about the “message” than actual history.

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    I guess people want to fly something but flying American flag is considered too rude.

    For many non us people I know, flying American flag in public is no different from showing middle finger or exposing private parts.

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      We are also a nation of immigrants, and cultural heritage and pride is huge among those populations, which is something Wonderbreadville USA can’t seem to understand, but also actively hates. My wife is 4th generation Mexican American, was born out of the Chicano movement, and they all celebrate their Mexican heritage while also being more American that the idiots screaming about white rights. No one gets pissy about a German, English/UK, French, Canadian, etc flag, but the second the flag of a brown country is flow, people lose their minds without a hint of irony.

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      Yeah, it’s a bummer, but displaying the American flag at this point in history is going to make people think you are racist and at least a bit stupid.

      Was driving the other day and saw a big American flag in a front yard and thought “well, I guess I know what kind of folks live there…” but as I got closer I saw that the blue section, instead of stars, said FUCK TRUMP. And I was like “oh… you got me!” 👉😎 👉

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    The problem with democracy is that you can’t get very far just by telling the voters how they ought to behave. I’m happy that I’m not a politician, because after the last election I don’t respect the majority of American voters. Trying to win their support would be demeaning. However, someone is going to do it, and if he isn’t a Democrat who does care (or acts like he cares) about people like Steve in Wisconsin, he’ll be a Republican instead.

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      California is full of people who are Mexican immigrants and people who have lived here since it was Mexico. ‘Stop waving Mexican flags after Mexican Americans and Latinos in general were kidnapped off the street’ is stupid and every minute spent focusing on making protestors protest in a way which will satisfy everyone—which, what do you know, just happens to be a fool’s errand that will result in support from nobody—is a minute you could have been telling ICE and the LAPD to fuck off instead.

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        I find the liberal capacity to realpolitik their way into genocide while simultaneously being unable to understand the demands of basic political rhetoric fascinating.