It doesn’t change that Irish is still our language.
English is the language that we use due to coercion.
The petty remark was in relation to the amount of people who “claim” to speak some of it.
Considering it was compulsory in schools until fairly recently, I wouldn’t find that unbelievable.
Oh come on, “coercion” is a bit of a stretch. Have you heard a Brit say they’re coerced to speak English because of the Anglo-Saxon invaders? With a few centuries’ difference it’s exactly the same.
It’s your language, time to own it. Or maybe rename it, like the Yugoslavs did!
A few centuries?
It wasn’t until 2006 that the British government gave the Irish language a legal status in Northern Ireland. But, to date there has been no political progress on passing an Irish Language Act there.
This followed the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 with the British government committed to “recognise the importance of respect, understanding and tolerance in relation to linguistic diversity … including the Irish language”.
I’m pretty sure it is owned, just has obstacles still in place by the same people that attempted to force people to stop using it, and succeeded for the most part. The recentness of both of those milestones shows that. It also shows that it is not the same thing as your example.
For obvious reasons Gaelic is even less “the” language of Northern Ireland, as of course you are well aware.
Back on topic, I’ll just repeat my point: in a country where 99% of people speak language A on a daily basis and where nobody is preventing them from talking language B (quite the opposite), it is silly histrionics to talk of “coercion”. It’s water under the bridge.
The largest ethnic group in the USA is Germans. Do you hear Americans complain about being “coerced” to speak English? Come on.
PS: Yeah, a lot of performative virtue-brigading from the latecomers here, but my argument (if you actually read it) would in fact be endorsed by large numbers of Irish people. Whatever.
I’m done with you.
You are obviously trying to change the narrative to suit you as you are attempting to discuss something you painfully obviously know nothing about.
Good luck.
English is an official language too, the dominant one which is used day-to-day and understandable by the (vast) majority. History isn’t really relevant.
Aye they probably know as much Irish as the average person who took German or French in school remembers, fuck all.
Nobody said otherwise.
The Irish language is the language of Ireland. As mentioned, only a certain creed would dispute that.
Also as mentioned, it is used and dominant due to coercion. Of course history is relevant.
It’s Irrelevant how much you think people may remember what they learned.
It makes perfect sense, in fact more sense to use the native language that is still used, in a visual like this.
Nobody raging about colonialism here, but some cunts are very easy to see when they try to dispute any native culture. Especially when it’s for no other reason but to be a cunt. A stupid one at that. “Literally nobody speaks it” literally…
Yeah… 🙄
What are you shiting on about, what% would I put it at? I’m pretty sure that’s not how stats work.
According to the official figures from the census in 2022…
Almost 1.9 million people (aged three years and over) stated they could speak Irish, an increase of more than 112,500 people since Census 2016 (+6%).
Your last paragraph is a question that hasn’t been asked. It’s not relevant to this thread.
Nobody asked about a minority language. While you and some others may dispute the existence or relevance of the Irish language, that is Irrelevant.
It doesn’t change that Irish is still our language. English is the language that we use due to coercion. The petty remark was in relation to the amount of people who “claim” to speak some of it. Considering it was compulsory in schools until fairly recently, I wouldn’t find that unbelievable.
Oh come on, “coercion” is a bit of a stretch. Have you heard a Brit say they’re coerced to speak English because of the Anglo-Saxon invaders? With a few centuries’ difference it’s exactly the same.
It’s your language, time to own it. Or maybe rename it, like the Yugoslavs did!
A few centuries? It wasn’t until 2006 that the British government gave the Irish language a legal status in Northern Ireland. But, to date there has been no political progress on passing an Irish Language Act there.
This followed the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 with the British government committed to “recognise the importance of respect, understanding and tolerance in relation to linguistic diversity … including the Irish language”.
I’m pretty sure it is owned, just has obstacles still in place by the same people that attempted to force people to stop using it, and succeeded for the most part. The recentness of both of those milestones shows that. It also shows that it is not the same thing as your example.
For obvious reasons Gaelic is even less “the” language of Northern Ireland, as of course you are well aware.
Back on topic, I’ll just repeat my point: in a country where 99% of people speak language A on a daily basis and where nobody is preventing them from talking language B (quite the opposite), it is silly histrionics to talk of “coercion”. It’s water under the bridge.
The largest ethnic group in the USA is Germans. Do you hear Americans complain about being “coerced” to speak English? Come on.
PS: Yeah, a lot of performative virtue-brigading from the latecomers here, but my argument (if you actually read it) would in fact be endorsed by large numbers of Irish people. Whatever.
I’m done with you. You are obviously trying to change the narrative to suit you as you are attempting to discuss something you painfully obviously know nothing about. Good luck.
English is an official language too, the dominant one which is used day-to-day and understandable by the (vast) majority. History isn’t really relevant.
Aye they probably know as much Irish as the average person who took German or French in school remembers, fuck all.
Nobody said otherwise. The Irish language is the language of Ireland. As mentioned, only a certain creed would dispute that. Also as mentioned, it is used and dominant due to coercion. Of course history is relevant.
It’s Irrelevant how much you think people may remember what they learned.
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It makes perfect sense, in fact more sense to use the native language that is still used, in a visual like this. Nobody raging about colonialism here, but some cunts are very easy to see when they try to dispute any native culture. Especially when it’s for no other reason but to be a cunt. A stupid one at that. “Literally nobody speaks it” literally… Yeah… 🙄
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Yeah, keep coming with the bullshit. Okay hyperbole it is.
But history isn’t really relevant? 🤔🙄 I’ve read some twats in my time, but that…
Your last paragraph would be a different thread. Fuck off and make that one if it makes you happy, but it’s not the same as the OP.
I literally gave the stats in my original comment ya eejit
You didn’t answer, what %?
My last paragraph isn’t a different thread, it’s illustrating how daft it’d be to ask someone about a minority language for the OP.
What are you shiting on about, what% would I put it at? I’m pretty sure that’s not how stats work. According to the official figures from the census in 2022…
Your last paragraph is a question that hasn’t been asked. It’s not relevant to this thread. Nobody asked about a minority language. While you and some others may dispute the existence or relevance of the Irish language, that is Irrelevant.