"The people stealing from Americans are not folks with tattoos and hoodies—it's people wearing suits and ties and congressional pins, sitting in this Capitol right now," said Rep. Maxwell Frost.
The percentage of people who don’t vote hasn’t changed much in 100 years. Call them lazy, uneducated, apathetic, etc, it makes no difference. They don’t vote and that’s all there is to be said about it. If you’re waiting around for them to start voting for your preferred candidate you’re going to be waiting for the rest of your life. Stop talking about them and start making other plans.
And it swung the 2020 election. Biden still holds the record for the most votes of any president ever, Trump was number 2 for the most votes ever in that same election.
You cannot swing for the center and hope to flip some republicans. They vote on a single issue, and that issue is usually, “who will hurt the people I hate most”. They like to play it off as “Fiscally republican” or some other shit, but it’s all lies and falls apart if you pull on the threads of their reasoning.
Yeah maybe its the job of the politicians to go out and get peoples votes and listen to what they’re concerned about rather than just sitting there saying well you have to vote for us cuz that guys worse
They ran on universal healthcare and taxing the rich. Their sitting president was one of, if not the most, progressive president in our lifetimes with a strong economic recovery record. They even listened when their base told them Biden was too old and gave them a younger candidate.
Just admit that the dumbfucks that voted 3rd party or didn’t vote were single issue losers who couldn’t see the forest for the trees and now we have fascism in America.
There is plenty of discussion how this last election people didn’t move rightwards, they moved couchwards. The absolute numbers voting for president went down substantially. I bet a good number of those were protest non voters.
They were quite literally funding a genocide and then somehow thought pointing out [the very real] fascist intent of the Republican plans would play in their favor.
Edit: it seems none of you have understood my point.
At no point did I say Republicans were not also backing genocide. Only that, maybe, just maybe, Democrats could have NOT done so, to give people an actual choice on that issue.
I understand you prefer binary arguments where saying one bad thing about someone automatically means the opponent has to be good on that topic, but the world doesn’t work like that.
Dude they want to nuke Gaza, while Biden was pushing for peace. But to you it’s all the same and “b b b b both sides same”. This is why you project “you prefer binary arguments”. Ciao.
It’s amazing how garbage your reading comprehension can be and you still think you have an argument.
I know Republicans are worse. I’m saying Biden did a weak as fuck job pushing for peace which exasperated the already present voter apathy. Continuing to repeat yourself while missing the entire point of what I’m saying does not make you look any less fucking stupid for missing it.
They literally refuse to admit that an entire apparatus of a party wanting something, and then a handful of members wanting something of another party are not the same.
Then they have the gall to complain that the democrats didn’t personally promise them a pony and a unicorn so they didn’t vote.
Only that, maybe, just maybe, Democrats could have NOT done so
Like, do you not grasp that international relations is a thing?
Do you not fathom that when an important ally, the most important in the Middle East, ramps up a conflict they’ve had with another nation for our entire lives, that it’s not exactly a simple subject? That you can’t just say “Welp, you’re being mean to someone else, so fuck you our relationship is over”?
Biden repeatedly spoke out against Netanyahu’s tactics. He started threatening to hold up arms shipments and impose sanctions. These are the proper steps to take before resorting to losing one of your most important allies.
Then Americans chose fascism and now the situation is much worse.
Ah yes, we’re going to downplay systemic genocide as “being mean” now? To make this seem like a simple, laughable little faux pas. What a piece of shit you are.
The proper steps to stopping that shit is not go : " no, please…stop…" And continue shoveling those weapons to them, actively enabling the behavior we want to stop.
Israel was trying to drag us into a war with Iran as well, attacking them hoping they could hide behind the US. For two years. No change in weapon shipments. Clearly he did a bad fucking job. Whining about it being complicated doesn’t unfuck up the job he did.
Let people wonder whether you’re dumb or not. Don’t prove to them that you are.
Biden was one of, if not the most progressive president, in our lifetimes. That is a FACT.
But of course you don’t know that.
The Democrats fumbled appealing to progressives, independents, and undecided voters.
By running on universal healthcare and taxing the rich? No, Republicans ran the most effective propaganda campaign in the history of this country (with the help of Russian disinformation) and it worked, because Americans are braindead stupid.
A lack of vote is a valid choice in the system, if it wasn’t then it wouldn’t be allowed.
You chose to sit out, so why would anyone want to listen to you?
So that they can get your vote next time, should they actually want to win? What kind of moronic question is that, are you guys actually as stupid as it seems the Dems are at understanding basic shit?
Funny how Biden brought up price gouging but then never acted on it
Funny how they brought up corporations buying elections and then never acted on it.
Funny how they could have enshrined abortion or medicaid into law and decided not to because they couldn’t even get their own house together to vote for it because they’re all paid for by corporations and Israel.
Funny how they couldn’t do the basic moral thing and not finance fully a genocide.
Funny how they didnt reach across to any left leaning voters but instead paraded around a family of genocidaires. Funny how they kept leaping to the right instead of even trying to stay as a democratic party.
Funny how they’ve rigged their own elections since Obama in 08.
Because Joe “nothing would fundamentally change” Biden was so progressive.
Hope none of your family died in the years before Trump like the hundreds of thousands of others who die each year from easily fixable causes but weren’t because they lived in status quo America.
Quick question, do you in any way shape or form hold the Democratic party responsible for their performance at the polls?
How many billions of dollars in student loan debt did Biden cancel? How much more would have been cancelled if the supreme court didn’t act in a blatantly partisan manner?
Yeah, I do hold them responsible. Shumer shouldn’t be in leadership and AOC should be on every high profile committee there is.
Not voting solves nothing. You know how you get more progressive legislation passed? By voting for the party that has progressives in it. That’s how. More democrats means more people like AOC. It doesn’t fucking matter if your personal rep is a god damned blue dog if it means there’s one less republican in congress.
“Oh so a person helps fix a problem they were part of, and for you that’s not enough.”
Um, no? Is that supposed to be satire?
–Hypothetically, If your dog vomits on the floor and eats a small part of that vomit before looking at you for approval, do you praise them for partially cleaning up the mess they made?
Because Joe “nothing would fundamentally change” Biden was so progressive.
Are you stupid? His legislation was VERY progressive. Guy was even the first president IN HISTORY to forgive student loans and to stand on a picket line with striking workers.
do you in any way shape or form hold the Democratic party responsible for their performance at the polls?
Yes, but not even close to as responsible as I hold American voters for failing their civic duty.
Not “Biden’s Genocide”. Israel was bombing Gaza before we sent a DIME of aid and they will continue with or without us until someone forces them to stop.
If you are going to spread propaganda with no citation; I’m spreading fact WITH citation regarding the truth of what the MAGA are hiding and trying to distract from:
The average American spends way more in prescriptions vs other countries
This shit is so fucking lazy.
Biden enacted plenty of progressive asks during his term. Harris outlined plenty of progressive asks in her campaign as well.
Just because it wasn’t 100% of what YOU personally wanted doesn’t mean it wasn’t good legislation.
Hope none of your family dies because of this, because if they do it’s on you, mr protest voter.
The percentage of people who don’t vote hasn’t changed much in 100 years. Call them lazy, uneducated, apathetic, etc, it makes no difference. They don’t vote and that’s all there is to be said about it. If you’re waiting around for them to start voting for your preferred candidate you’re going to be waiting for the rest of your life. Stop talking about them and start making other plans.
The difference in non-voters between 2020 and 2024 was enough to swing the election.
And it swung the 2020 election. Biden still holds the record for the most votes of any president ever, Trump was number 2 for the most votes ever in that same election.
You cannot swing for the center and hope to flip some republicans. They vote on a single issue, and that issue is usually, “who will hurt the people I hate most”. They like to play it off as “Fiscally republican” or some other shit, but it’s all lies and falls apart if you pull on the threads of their reasoning.
Yeah maybe its the job of the politicians to go out and get peoples votes and listen to what they’re concerned about rather than just sitting there saying well you have to vote for us cuz that guys worse
If you’re so entitled you need to be personally courted to stand up against fascism then Idk what to tell you.
They ran on universal healthcare and taxing the rich. Their sitting president was one of, if not the most, progressive president in our lifetimes with a strong economic recovery record. They even listened when their base told them Biden was too old and gave them a younger candidate.
Just admit that the dumbfucks that voted 3rd party or didn’t vote were single issue losers who couldn’t see the forest for the trees and now we have fascism in America.
Like another plan like move out of the country to somewhere smart ?
so only non voters and MAGATS are left behind to shoot them selves in the foot
I think they are already doing that.
There is plenty of discussion how this last election people didn’t move rightwards, they moved couchwards. The absolute numbers voting for president went down substantially. I bet a good number of those were protest non voters.
They were quite literally funding a genocide and then somehow thought pointing out [the very real] fascist intent of the Republican plans would play in their favor.
Edit: it seems none of you have understood my point.
You mean this? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/republican-congressperson-wants-to-nuke-gaza-into-surrender/ar-AA1FiCdJ Sorry that’s the GOP.
At no point did I say Republicans were not also backing genocide. Only that, maybe, just maybe, Democrats could have NOT done so, to give people an actual choice on that issue.
I understand you prefer binary arguments where saying one bad thing about someone automatically means the opponent has to be good on that topic, but the world doesn’t work like that.
Dude they want to nuke Gaza, while Biden was pushing for peace. But to you it’s all the same and “b b b b both sides same”. This is why you project “you prefer binary arguments”. Ciao.
It’s amazing how garbage your reading comprehension can be and you still think you have an argument.
I know Republicans are worse. I’m saying Biden did a weak as fuck job pushing for peace which exasperated the already present voter apathy. Continuing to repeat yourself while missing the entire point of what I’m saying does not make you look any less fucking stupid for missing it.
They literally refuse to admit that an entire apparatus of a party wanting something, and then a handful of members wanting something of another party are not the same.
Then they have the gall to complain that the democrats didn’t personally promise them a pony and a unicorn so they didn’t vote.
Maybe not actively assisting in a genocide = wanting a personal pony
Now, apparently. Like, that bar is literally on the floor, and you’re making excuses why they couldn’t meet that challenge
Like, do you not grasp that international relations is a thing?
Do you not fathom that when an important ally, the most important in the Middle East, ramps up a conflict they’ve had with another nation for our entire lives, that it’s not exactly a simple subject? That you can’t just say “Welp, you’re being mean to someone else, so fuck you our relationship is over”?
Biden repeatedly spoke out against Netanyahu’s tactics. He started threatening to hold up arms shipments and impose sanctions. These are the proper steps to take before resorting to losing one of your most important allies.
Then Americans chose fascism and now the situation is much worse.
Ah yes, we’re going to downplay systemic genocide as “being mean” now? To make this seem like a simple, laughable little faux pas. What a piece of shit you are.
The proper steps to stopping that shit is not go : " no, please…stop…" And continue shoveling those weapons to them, actively enabling the behavior we want to stop.
Israel was trying to drag us into a war with Iran as well, attacking them hoping they could hide behind the US. For two years. No change in weapon shipments. Clearly he did a bad fucking job. Whining about it being complicated doesn’t unfuck up the job he did.
Oh no! Its not like the dems didnt drop the equivalent of 5 nuclear bombs on gaza anyway…
Lol super weird attempt at “b b b both sides same”.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Biden? Progressive? lol that’s funny
The Democrats fumbled appealing to progressives, independents, and undecided voters. That’s a lot more that just one guy you are responding to
Can I give you a pro life tip?
Let people wonder whether you’re dumb or not. Don’t prove to them that you are.
Biden was one of, if not the most progressive president, in our lifetimes. That is a FACT.
But of course you don’t know that.
By running on universal healthcare and taxing the rich? No, Republicans ran the most effective propaganda campaign in the history of this country (with the help of Russian disinformation) and it worked, because Americans are braindead stupid.
She also outlined a move to the right and lied about working super hard for a ceasefire
So tired of people pretending the Dems weren’t a horrific choice in 24, likely on purpose to give repubs their turn
You have 2 fucking choices. Sitting out means you have no right to complain, because you supported the worst side.
Always authoritarian bullshit from you people, pathetic
If you don’t vote, your opinion is worthless. You chose to sit out, so why would anyone want to listen to you?
A lack of vote is a valid choice in the system, if it wasn’t then it wouldn’t be allowed.
So that they can get your vote next time, should they actually want to win? What kind of moronic question is that, are you guys actually as stupid as it seems the Dems are at understanding basic shit?
Yeah, way worse than literal fascism.
Lol. Do you still wear your clown nose when you’re at home alone? 🤡
Funny how Biden brought up price gouging but then never acted on it
Funny how they brought up corporations buying elections and then never acted on it.
Funny how they could have enshrined abortion or medicaid into law and decided not to because they couldn’t even get their own house together to vote for it because they’re all paid for by corporations and Israel.
Funny how they couldn’t do the basic moral thing and not finance fully a genocide.
Funny how they didnt reach across to any left leaning voters but instead paraded around a family of genocidaires. Funny how they kept leaping to the right instead of even trying to stay as a democratic party.
Funny how they’ve rigged their own elections since Obama in 08.
Funny how you have no citations but still spread misinformation around.
Here are some facts with citations :
More drugs are coming from the US to Canada. Not the other way around.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-complaints-drugs-guns-border-1.7457605
Because Joe “nothing would fundamentally change” Biden was so progressive.
Hope none of your family died in the years before Trump like the hundreds of thousands of others who die each year from easily fixable causes but weren’t because they lived in status quo America.
Quick question, do you in any way shape or form hold the Democratic party responsible for their performance at the polls?
How many billions of dollars in student loan debt did Biden cancel? How much more would have been cancelled if the supreme court didn’t act in a blatantly partisan manner?
Yeah, I do hold them responsible. Shumer shouldn’t be in leadership and AOC should be on every high profile committee there is.
Not voting solves nothing. You know how you get more progressive legislation passed? By voting for the party that has progressives in it. That’s how. More democrats means more people like AOC. It doesn’t fucking matter if your personal rep is a god damned blue dog if it means there’s one less republican in congress.
How many billions in student loan debt did Biden create by helping establish the predatory student-loan system as it currently exists?
Oh so a person helps fix a problem they were part of, and for you that’s not enough.
God you people are so tiring.
Um, no? Is that supposed to be satire?
–Hypothetically, If your dog vomits on the floor and eats a small part of that vomit before looking at you for approval, do you praise them for partially cleaning up the mess they made?
Are you stupid? His legislation was VERY progressive. Guy was even the first president IN HISTORY to forgive student loans and to stand on a picket line with striking workers.
Yes, but not even close to as responsible as I hold American voters for failing their civic duty.
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Not “Biden’s Genocide”. Israel was bombing Gaza before we sent a DIME of aid and they will continue with or without us until someone forces them to stop.
If you are going to spread propaganda with no citation; I’m spreading fact WITH citation regarding the truth of what the MAGA are hiding and trying to distract from:
The average American spends way more in prescriptions vs other countries
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/how-do-prescription-drug-costs-in-the-united-states-compare-to-other-countries/#Prices of select prescription drugs in the United States and for comparable countries, 2017
Source?
I’ll take “Clown Takes” for $500, Alex.
Enjoy that moral superiority when ICE comes and takes you away.