• CthuluVoIP@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    This alarmist and factually dubious fear mongering is part of what is hurting the Democrats and the left in the US. Binary triggers do not turn a firearm into a “fully automatic machine gun”. What they do is cause the gun to fire on both the trigger pull and the trigger reset. This allows the shooter to fire very quickly, but not as fast as a true automatic weapon. Machine gun, and assault rifle both have specific legal definitions that hinge on the firearm firing multiple rounds with one trigger action. A standard trigger has two actions for every trigger pull - the pull and the reset. This is why these devices are technically legal. It’s also why bump stocks are legal.

    It’s splitting hairs and is pedantic, but the tilted and inaccurate narrative only serves to disenfranchise people who lean left but also enjoy firearms.

    All that said - restricting access to this vaccine is asinine and needlessly dangerous. To your point, we paid for this medicine with our taxes, our isolation, and unfortunately with many lives. Fuck this administration and the spineless republicans who enable them to trample on our rights.

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      We still don’t need people to be able to fire more bullets per minute. The risk/benefit for society is pretty clearly against allowing devices like that.

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        The evidence doesn’t support the outsized FUD. Firearms in general are dangerous. A $500 novelty that very few gun owners will ever purchase or install isn’t a serious safety concern. Seemingly only one instance of one being used in a shooting in Fargo in 2023. That situation was tragic, and the police who responded likely prevented the shooter from committing a larger and more destructive attack. But the fact remains that these things are novelties or gimmicks. They make shooting the gun worse in nearly every way, and have extremely limited practical application.

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          you just basically shot your argument in the foot, if they aren’t that important to have, then there is no real need to have them in the first place.

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          Shitty argument that subjectively implies a min/max. Exactly how many people need to be killed by rapid-fire mods for you to change your mind? No, don’t butwhatabout some other unrelated statistic… Spell it out. What number of people dying will be enough for you to decide that increasing the fire rate of firearms should not be done?

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            That’s a good question, how many people need to die from sugar before it’s banned? Or pools without fences? Or animals dying from plastic? Or junk food? Knives? What is the threshold for liberty and safety?

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      That ruling is about forced reset triggers, which absolutely replicate automatic fire in all but our pedantic definition of machine gun. I got dragged a bit on another thread for suggesting that they are effectively machine gun conversion devices the same as a DIAS or a Glock switch. People saying that these triggers “only help you shoot slightly faster and aren’t even close to what a machine gun can do.”

      See for yourself and be your own judge.