“Yes don’t vote at all to get rid of fascism”

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    4 days ago

    So you’re saying it’s not any fascist’s fault for voting for a fascist, because they were manipulated?

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        Oh, well that’s okay. Nobody has a moral obligation to resist fascism. Calling people evil for letting a neo-nazi wannabe dictator take control of the government is absurd

        /s

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          Your totally right. It’s OK to support genocide because the “good” party (that builds the infrastructure for facism, and doesn’t fight against it) is such a better option. I mean, how can people not be supportive of that?

          /s

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            You killed 10 Gazas by letting trump win.

            In opposing 1 genocide you chose 10 more, and threw away any hope to resist them.

            So many dying kids curse you right now.

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              I didn’t “let” Trump win, I voted against him. The Democrats handed the election to him because they valued genocide and money more than they valued fighting fascism. The Democrats openly bombed the shit out of kids world-wide. Do you think they were happy with you when Biden was bombing them? or do you think they cursed as they were dying?

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                They didn’t hand shit.

                Nobody should have voted FOR Harris.

                Everyone should have voted AGAINST Trump.

                It’s childish to even have this discussion.

                If the dems had literally run Mitt Romney I would have voted for him gladly.

                Becauae, unlike you, I don’t want MORE genocide, and Trump is nothing if not openly pro-genocide.

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                  They did tho. Trump is one of, if not the least popular president we’ve ever had. Are you telling me that the Democrat’s really tried their best, and couldn’t find anyone that was more likeable than him?

                  I did vote against Trump, but I also voted against Harris. I did that because, unlike you, I didn’t want genocide or fascism.

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                    https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/super-tuesday/

                    Sanders got… 1/3 bidens vote?

                    What magic candidate do you think could have done so much better?

                    You live so deep up your own ass on the left you don’t understand how stubbornly conservative much of the country is.

                    That’s why Biden was a good candidate, old and white, mildly racist, he literally aligned with the majority of this worthless trash country.

                    I’m not white, and I suspect you haven’t lived outside of the coasts, large parts of this country are almost Afghanistan.

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                    Are you telling me that the Democrat’s really tried their best

                    We’re telling you Republicans ran the most propagandized campaign in American history and Americans were too stupid to see through it. This is far more about Americans being stupid and easily manipulated than it is about Democrats running a bad campaign.

                  • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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                    I did vote against Trump, but I also voted against Harris. I did that because, unlike you, I didn’t want genocide or fascism.

                    No, you did not. You engaged in a purely performative action with no statistical chance of a positive outcome against fascism or genocide, so that you could brag about your moral purity while offering up the rest of us to fascists, including your SO, apparently, to feed your ego.

                    You can lie to others and you can lie to yourself but, the math doesn’t lie. FPTP system with established parties (one of them openly fascist, that already attempted a coup) meant that there were, mathematically, two options (not a false dichotomy but a real one): voting for a candidate with a statistical chance of winning against the fascists, or letting fascists win. You chose the latter and, if we survive this, that’s something that you’ll have to come to terms with and take responsibility for.

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            Are you happy you didn’t “support genocide”? Did it make the world a better place?

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              I am indeed happy that I didn’t “support genocide”. But no, it didn’t make the world a better place. Are you happy that you supported genocide? Did that make the world a better place?

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                Funnily enough your moral high grounding resulted in school lunch programs being discontinued. So good job now we have a genocide AND more hungry kids domestically

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                  Homie, please stop arguing with this person. You’re not doing yourself any favors and giving them what they want.

                  Like maga idiots, they get off knowing they upset you. And you deserve better, if only as an obligation to yourself. Plus you are giving them a stage to preach their dumbassery.

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                    I argue with the hope of convincing those on the fence reading it. Appreciate the looking out though. You are right this person won’t be convinced

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                  Funnily enough, the DNC running unpopular candidates on unpopular policies resulted in school lunch programs being discontinued. So good job now we have a genocide AND more hungry kids domestically.

                  Maybe the DNC should put out candidates and policies that people want, instead of running Republican-light candidates.

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                    You made a choice and that made kids hungry. Own up to you. You can justify it however you want. You can use whatever prose and logic you wish, but you and many others like you bear that responsibility.

                    The dems can be a whole hell of a lot better, and so can you. I’m sorry you found neither shool lunch programs for hungry kids and abortion rights for women an appealing policy of their platform

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                    the DNC running unpopular candidates on unpopular policies resulted in school lunch programs being discontinued.

                    Lol. Congrats. You have successfully twisted yourself into a pretzel to avoid placing blame where it belongs. On the American electorate.

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                Are you happy that you supported genocide?

                The fact that you think people who supported Democrats supported genocide is infantile and shows that you are arguing in bad faith.