• ShadowCat@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    Why does it always feel like the people making the really great content have to fight to keep the fantastic moments in and then the people making slop can just do whatever

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      12 hours ago

      Originality is the path to the riskier side of business. Risk can lead to profit loss. Profit loss leads shareholders to suffering.

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        8 hours ago

        Have you heard the story of Focus Group the Wise? Its not story the Creatives would tell you.

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        Hey now, don’t stop there…

        Shareholder suffering leads to anger.
        Anger leads to hate.

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        Which makes sense on paper to a corporate board, what I love is how ironically the less risky means more boring, and that we’re finally seeing people not showing up to boring repetitive slop. Iron man and the MCU started as a risk, and they had interesting new storylines. Now it’s boring safe slop

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      I don’t hate Kathleen Kennedy or anything, she’s just doing her job. In fact she’s not even really a cause so much as a symptom, but fact is she was hired because her vision matches what the marketing people want: dumbed down, mass-appeal media that speaks to no one and offends no one. She has made it work before in her career, and (likely, in my opinion) loves the formula for its efficacy, not its artistic value. It’s about the money, and enshittification. I’m as confused as everyone else how Andor managed to slip through the gatekeeping, but very glad for it. Maybe they’ll learn that there’s a market for more than just “childlike wonderment.”

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        I’ve wondered if they planned on Andor flopping and we’re going to just doa season trial run, or it came at the time they were greenlighting everything star wars. There’s no way it should have slipped through marketing, legal, the feel good police, but it did, and I’m very grateful for Tony Gilroy telling the story he wanted

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          I think KK’s team did, half covertly, attempt to set it up to fail. And with the bizarre high budget they gave it it might even turn out to be a flop.

          But they set it up to run against The Last Of Us season 2, like they placed the Mandalorian & Grogu movie (dumbest title ever, are they the siblings of Lilo & Stitch?) against the new Marvel movies in May '26…

          There was no prior big ticket advertising for Andor, only now when the season is fully out did the advertising start in a big way.

          I am also not quite sure on the 3 episodes per week schedule. In a way it worked, story wise, but I feel it would have lasted longer in the ratings if it was one episode per week, with perhaps only the first 3 episodes in the same week as an appetizer.

          All in all it feels to me they definitely did not give it their best effort to give Andor’s 2nd season a smooth sailing ride in the hope to be able to declare it a flop.
          Why that is I can not directly say, perhaps it is some vindictiveness because Andor succeeded where the more hands on projects failed, or that they just don’t want to give us Andor style products, but it could just as well be some pure incompetence of the management layer…again…

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        Her formula actually IS about offending the fan base … Time and time again her team starts a controversy that insults the fans far ahead of release of any of the products, and the products themselves mess with existing lore and expectations. All for no reason other than to start a ruckus about the product so they can blame the fans for it failing.

        I highly suspect Andor slipped past is because somewhere someone declared/decreed it “absolutely hands-off” in the creative stages, and it shows in how a polished product is delivered that has not been meddled with.

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          6 hours ago

          What fanbase?

          Insecure boys and manchildren who have been brainwashed by The Manosphere?

          Too bad, so sad. Get a psychiatrist, and work on your insecurities.