cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29182109
Flowpath to have a Lemmy account for complete Newb
Mass adoption won’t come easily. People treat social media just like broadcast and print mass media: they want to follow big names and brands. It’s a change in mindset looking for niche communities instead. Look at Bluesky, it didn’t really take off until big Twitter accounts moved and brought their minions with them.
I send people links to Photon to show people how nice everything is here. Concise, typeable URLs help where possible.
- To recommend Lemmy in general: phtn.app
- When linking a thread: https://phtn.app/post/lemm.ee/63146216
- When linking a community: https://phtn.app/c/fediverse@lemmy.world or https://photon.lemmy.world/c/fediverse
- When recommending an instance: the instance’s Photon front end like phtn.lemmy.blahaj.zone or p.feddit.uk
The domain names don’t seem very inviting.
Some awful domain parker yoinked photon.app and i’ll forever hold a grudge against all domain parkers
They can’t all be spectra.video or lethallava.land . We need a Lemmy instance with some real market research money going into the domain.
Are spectra.video and lethallava.land special? Idk about them.
Also didn’t mean to diss you, just that, I as a new person to lemmy would have avoided them. There’s a mix of rational and irrational fear for weird looking links in me.
Just send them a link to Lemmy.world with whatever frontend you think they’d like best.
LW is bigger than it should be. Direct them to some other instance.
Start sharing lemmy posts with them. Don’t tell them to join up. Just like the best way to get someone to listen to a song is just yo play it when they are around, rather then telling them to listen to it.
There’s a whole community dedicated to this topic - !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Give them an instance you think they’d vibe with and tell them to check it out. I know some instances make joining way more complicated than it needs to be or has you write a whole freakin’ essay; but most don’t and are just as easy to sign up and start using as Reddit or other SM.
Unless they are into that kind of thing, don’t talk about federation. The number of comments I’ve seen on various other sites discussing Lemmy confused about how federation works and what it means is extremely high, and for the average person it doesn’t matter. Focus on the the general user experience, and not the tech running it. Especially if you’re trying to convince “normies.”
Nothing can be easier than going to https://portal.alien.top/, signing up with your Reddit account and seeing your account already subscribed to communities corresponding to your favorite subreddits.
That sounds cool, but it’s broken for me. The Reddit login page gives me a 500 server error. I want to point my old subreddit at my Mbin magazine, but it seems to require logging in with Reddit to do much of anything.
I will take a look at the login issue. Seems like I need to update alien.top to a more recent version of Lemmy.
If you already have a Fedi account and just want to help with the community mapping, please take a look at https://fediverser.network/. The “fediversed” instances (like alien.top) can update their own mapping based on changes from fediverser.network, so any on one place can be used by admins elsewhere.
- Send them links to posts they would like
- Goto 1
Share something useful from Lemmy with someone not on Lemmy, when that something does not also contain toxic negativity or vitriol, but is positive, inclusive, and cordial.
https://join-lemmy.org/ worked for me. I had never heard of Lemmy before someone sent a modmail to a sub that I moderate. They told us about beehaw I think, then join Lemmy. I went I joined and I have been here since.
There’s no easy or hard way, if they are willing to join they will.
Why are you in Lemmy? Explain your reasons to them and why you decided to join and hopefully they understand and join too, that’s all you can do. Forcing people into the Fediverse won’t make them use it of they don’t believe in it.
I honestly was fucking pissed at Reddit for destroying Apollo so I read a headline about a burgeoning alternative that was fundamentally different in spirit if not in letter from Reddit
Yup indeed!
I think talking openly about the issues to people and explaining there are better ways that exist is the way to go. If they are in with the idea entering the Fediverse is a no brainer.
For me it’s crazy how many public institutions are on private social medias and not open ones where they can set their own server and rules. It’s also crazy how social norms have been decided by the top private companies in the world, if that’s not a distopian I don’t know what is it.
What do you mean? It’s just like signing up for an email account, and you get access to a forum like experience. Same thing for any other fedi app but the UI looks like something else.
- Give me a numbered bullet most concise path to do that
- thanks In advance
Send them to https://lemmyverse.net/
- Sign up on lemmy.world
- Pick some communities to subscribe on https://lemmy.world/communities?listingType=All&sort=TopMonth&page=1
- For mobile get the “Voyager on Lemmy” app (available on Android/iOS) and log in with your lemmy.world account.
I wouldn’t recommand lemmy.world there are lot instance they can pick up 😅
LW is fine. This a community dedicated to a niche video-game genre. The community already existed, just had very few posts.
Yes but the problem is the centralization and they may want an instance with their own language and culture. I think LW is too big and should be redistributed to other instance. But it is also a good starting pack. :)
Replacing LW with another option works too.
I strongly believe any discussion around federation/centralization should be avoided when bringing in new users. They will figure it out themselves and if they feel like it make adjustments accordingly.
I strongly believe any discussion around federation/centralization should be avoided when bringing in new users. They will figure it out themselves and if they
I disagree. Most won’t.
It’s better to tell them about federation and decentralization before they join and start asking why there are duplicate communities with the same name (I’ve seen people asking similar questions about the absolute basics of federation here before in some communities). Not in detail, but enough to give them the basic idea.
And if they find it “difficult”, then we already prevented someone from wasting storage space when they would leave the fediverse after a few days anyway.
You are right we shouldn’t explain federation. But tell them for example with PieFed, they can watch peertube video, comment to mastodon group…but not federation. For me, it is the strongest point of the fediverse.
As for the instance, it would be great if they have an instance picker : what are your language ? Favorite topic ? Then give them several instance.
join-lemmy.org has such an instance picker.
Yep exactly that would be fairer and more equitable that way :)
To show them what Lemmy is, link them to https://lemmy.world/?dataType=Post&listingType=All&sort=New
The important thing is to link them to the “New” page, because the Active page doesn’t change that frequently.
Then if they are interested, show them how to sign up for an account at Lemmy World, how to join communities, how to block communities and how to comment and post.
