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    He wanted to do it to please the Magats but not take any responsibility or have it used against him later.

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      Because a nazi Sieg Heil is seen as a bad thing by 90% of the world and if he came out and admitted it was one he would probably lose a few supporters from being on his side (probably not a big amount but some)

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    Remember when he was investigated by the SEC for Tweeting out that he was buying back Tesla stock for $420 apiece?

    And when he got booted out of the company he started because he insisted on naming it “X” despite everyone telling him that made it sound like a porn site?

    And when he accused those divers of being pedophiles because they rescued stranded children before he could find a way to make it about himself?

    And when just about every time he announces he’s saved government money, the number “saved” is immediately backtracked?

    And how the whole reason he owns Twitter is he made on offer that he immediately tried to back out of and would have if not for the threat of a multimillion dollar suit for breach of contract?

    Elon Musk does not think shit through. However smart or stupid he is, however deeply he does or doesn’t believe the Trump Administration’s fascist bullshit, he does not dedicate much time to thinking about it before he does stuff. I do not doubt for a moment that he performed and meant to perform a Nazi salute. As to what he was thinking, I cannot say. Maybe he cannot. He definitely has sympathies for anti-semitic and racist movements, but I don’t think he thought he was going to be hailed as the savior of the Aryan race for doing it. Maybe he thought it would be funny. Maybe he thought it would be “ironic.” Maybe he thought it would get “teh libz” in a tizzy. He probably didn’t think he would have to avoid ever going to Germany again under threat of being arrested. Whatever he was thinking, he probably wasn’t thinking it more than five seconds before he did it. And he’s clearly not thinking it now. Because despite being the richest man on the planet, Elon Musk is a bumblefuck who doesn’t think things through and has thus far been able to buy or otherwise ride his way out of any consequences of the things he has done without thinking about them.

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    He doesn’t want it removed. He wants to target those using it against him. Nazis using it to praise him are not in the crossfires now.

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      More examples of literal nazis praising trump and musk needed to be shoved into to the general publics face to combat this. Ive only heard some nobodies on internet mention it.

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    I think he wants it removed because of the effect on Tesla. He’d prefer if he could do things without consequences for his actions.

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      I assume it sucks feeling consequenses for the first time in his life. I hope he feels some more consequenses.

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    In Musk logic: it’s not bad when he does it. It’s bad when people start discussing it, because they might come to a disapproving conclusion.

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    Actions do have consequences. Trying to erase posts and people calling you out for what you did and explaining why those actions are bad does not make those things that you did go away and is honestly a bad look. If you don’t want people on social media calling you a Nazi, there’s a really easy solution for that - don’t do Nazi salutes on live TV, don’t make Nazi puns instead of apologizing, and don’t keep regurgitating anti-semetic conspiracy theories like the “great replacement” conspiracy theory.

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      These guys love to play the big badass no feeling guy then 3 min later start to play victim and beg for attention. Thanks for callling them out

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      I never actually watched the video. Now that I watched I think he didn’t mean to make a Nazi salute. He pressed his chest before raising his hand. I think he meant to salute his audience. That would also align with what he’s saying.

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          Seeing this, or a similar one, was what made me realise there was no other plausible explanation for what he was doing.

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          Also if they say they are not 100% the same tell them that American Nazis did add the chest slap to the whole thing.

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          unfortunately I didn’t think my own actions through, the placement of your gif and the context compelled me to like it, now I feel dirty.

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        Yes, the way a Nazi would - now shut the fuck up about it not being a Nazi salute.

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          Yes, the way a Nazi would - now shut the fuck up about it not being a Nazi salute.

          You shut the fuck up. Bring your toxicity and unhappy life elsewhere.

          Imagine some random person on the internet said something you don’t like and you immediately get triggered like that. Laughable.

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              People on the internet are way too soft and emotional these days. Man-up and stop wining about trivialities. My comment was not Nazi related. It was just an observation. No reason to be insulting.

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                Why are you defending fascists by running defense for them? That’s a really bad look.

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                People on the internet are way too soft and emotional these days. Man-up and stop wining about trivialities.

                Yes. That includes you, here, in this thread.

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                Yeah, you’re right, people are too soft.

                They should do that was done to Nazis during the war instead. Let me know if you volunteer walking into a BAR.

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              You’re making a lot of assumtions. Musk is a prick and I hate him. What makes you think I tolerate him?

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                Guy goes out of his way to defend Musk, turns around with ‘BuT AcKsHuAlLy I hAtE mUsK! cHeCkMaTe LoSeRs!’

                I’ll be reminding you of this conversation if I see you commenting again.

                Don’t bother deleting or editing your messages, I’ve already got them screenshot and saved.

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                  First of all, I’m not defending anyone. You lack reading comprehension. Me saying I interpret this not as a Nazi salute does not imply I like Musk or think he’s not a Nazi.

                  Second, I’m not deleting any messages. They got removed by mods for being insulting. So are other messages by other people who insulted me. But you can see that as it says “removed by mods”. Back to reading comprehension…

                  Go ahead and save screenshots of my comments and fill up your storage. You realize how this sounds right? You need to relax buddy. This is just a random thread on the internet. Nothing life-changing. Go outside, see the sun.

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                How many assumptions did I cram into a couple sentences? Lmao. I didn’t say anything about musk. My statement was about nazis.

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        Cool cool cool. So since it looks like a Nazi salute and was maybe accidental, he will surely apologize for the appearance and make sure no one misunderstands and thinks he is green lighting Naziism. That would be a good way to know. Should not take more than 24 hours. Even a tweet would help. Or a Xit or whatever we should call it now.

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              What do you mean? Hitler is doing the Roman salute. Which is not what Musk was doing in this video.

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                Do you have any historical references to Romans doing that? Cause all I can find are fascists doing a salute called a Roman salute.

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                Roman salute comes from rome indeed. Its historical indeed, namely q930s. Coincidentally made by the same people who invented faschsim, coincidentally named faschists.

                Read a single fucking book.

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                The claim that the salute has its origins in ancient Rome is dubious at best and ignores the fact that the salute is immediately associated with Nazism. Not a single Roman work of art depicts the salute. Don’t you think that’s a little fishy? There is evidence that it actually originated from the National Fascist Party, under Mussolini. Suffice to say there’s no good evidence that it originated from ancient Rome as opposed to it being a relatively new thing starting from the turn of the 20th century and originating in fascism.

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            early on there was an analysis that showed it was closest to the South African right wing version. Which kinda makes sense, no?

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              why does it matter?

              lmfao the fucking 1984 doublespeak shit that lets these fucks edge their way into normalcy shouldn’t be tolerated. he did a roman solute full stop. why is this even something that people entertain debating?

              act like they’re the stupid fucking idiots they are so they go crawling back into the depths of hell in shame, where they came from

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                please don’t do double speak: calling it a roman salute is already trying to give it any historical rationalisation.

                it is a nazi salute. there is little to no evidence of romans doing that salute. the only history with that gesture starts around 1914.

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        He had ample opportunity to go back and apologize, say he didn’t mean to, with how it looked, anything. But no he went to double down with anti semitism, and supporting the afd. He didn’t, it was a nazi salute, and it shouldn’t be shouldn’t be defended.

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        Hitler also did it. The only difference was that Elon Musk did so with more vigour. If he didn’t mean to make a Nazi salute, why did he respond with Nazi puns rather than apologizing?

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        I’m blocking you, but before I do I want you to know I hope you go out like Hitler did.

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          Unbelievable how such a trivial and unimportant comment that I wrote while taking a shit can trigger such a fuss here. Insults after insults. Why can you not relax for a moment and be happy? I meant no harm with my comment. Blocking accounts on the Fediverse based on that… Pathetic

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        Did you believe him when he said owning a Tesla would actually pay you when it drives itself in…2015?

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        I’d say you’re dumb as dog shit, but comparatively you make dog shit look smart.

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        Were you born this fucking stupid or did you have to take classes?

        Who am I gonna believe? You or my lying eyes?

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        Have you ever watched American History X? Go see how neo-nazis salute each other.

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        Oh i read your post and now that i did it’s very clear you meant he was doing nazi salutes.