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    I was writing that it’s not a bad price to pay to establish a feudal system where you’re part of the oligarchy, but honestly, what do they need more than they already have? The current system gave them everything they could ever wish to obtain.

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      what do they need more than they already have?

      These people have an illness. They wouldn’t be billionaires if they didn’t have an all-consuming desire to obtain and hoard wealth and power at all costs.

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      They still have people that can say no to them, their workers can quit, they need to deal with consumers boycotting their products.

      Globally, China is rapidly catching up to and surpassing Americans in more and more industries, and they need to protect their status.

      Nothing is enough for them.

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    OK but since January 17. What about before? Because i know Musk doubled his money when Trump got elected.

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    I’m legit wondering who even profits from Trump’s politics?
    If regular people are getting fucked and billionaires lose wealth and the stock market tanks, who comes out on top?

    Apart from the European military industrial complex?

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      The people with real money and power are taking huge gains. They are and will not suffer losses, other than temporary, strategic losses. This is prestidigitation. We’re focused on exactly what they want us to see, not what’s happening while we continue to be entertained by side shows.

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      By making it impossibile for the state to run, so that private companies will step in and charge people for stuff. That and destroying small and medium enterprises allowing companies to buy on the cheap

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    Its all losses on paper, unrealized losses.

    I could see them all coming out ahead in some other way, tax minimization, write downs/write offs, other financial methods not accessible to normal people that don’t have a fleet of accounts and tax lawyers on retainer. And they’ll all be ready to profit massively during and after any future crash.

    The cynic in me says that they all have a bunch of call/put options, algorithmic high frequency trading and dark pools at the ready, or other bets that’ll make them massively rich and any upcoming stock market crash is calculated and planned by influencing a bought president. Maybe that’s giving them too much credit but the people that advise these billionaires and the president are definitely ready to profit off of whatever is coming.

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      That’s the neat part. You don’t give them credit. Their lawyers and hedge funds do this for them and are rewarded the more fraudulent they can get

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      Also the bit that everyone’s leaving out, since election day, all these guys had huge boosts to their stocks. All the current losses basically corrected whatever gains they got since November.

      Basically, they aren’t hurting yet.

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        Basically, they aren’t hurting yet.

        Exactly. You could reduce their wealth by a factor of 1000, and they would still have more than 90% of people. They will never be genuinely hurt by losses. Not like 99% of people would be.

        The chart shouldn’t make anyone happy. The true horror of it should be realized; in reality it’s an accounting of how much they’re “spending” money to make money. They will continue to make more. The scales here are unfathomable to most people.

        It’s borderline misinformation to not include their total wealth for context.

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      I don’t know. I were filthy rich, I for one probably wouldn’t mind a small (and quite likely temporary) hit on my net worth if it means I get to buy promising upstarts and some of my competitors for small change because they’re now grossly underfunded/undervalued thanks to the crash.

      But then again, I’m a cynic, and probably just projecting here.

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        Really? Because if I had even a fraction of their wealth, I would stop working and just enjoy my life because I already had far more money than I could ever need. I would fund passion projects, and give away money to causes that I believe are important.

        These are not normal people. It’s never enough for them.

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          All cynicism aside, so would I, probably. What good is immense wealth if you don’t use it as a means to gain happiness?
          As much as it pains me to say this as a decades-long passionate M$ hater, Bill Gates is doing something right there.

          But you’re right about one thing of course …

          These are not normal people. It’s never enough for them.

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            IMHO Melinda changed Gates’s view on the world. As much as her desktop idea was nightmare fuel, they did create a foundation, had some kids together, and that let Gates grow as a person away from Ballmer’s “Developers, Developers, Developers!” culture.

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    “He only had one dick and one stomach”
    Ben Elton

    These losses mean nothing to these people.

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    Do you reckon that some people voted for Trump just because they knew he was so incompetent that he would inadvertently fuck shit up for everyone, friends included - and that there are enough disillusioned people in the US fed up of any semblance of the status quo (progressive or otherwise) who just wanted to watch the world burn as much as they’re suffering?

    A vote of pure spite and nihilism

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    I’m sure that a man as fond of Nazi dogwhistles as Musk will appreciate the fact that, given that a B looks like an 8, his losses are almost a Nazi codeword.