• ComeHereOrIHookYou@lemmy.world
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    Why stop there? If I where reddit and we go with these kinds of decisions, I’d propose the use of LLMs to ban anything that consititutes negative statement including disagreements.

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    I was banned for warning people i would punch them if they upvoted violent content and to knock it off. If spez doesnt want my help then he can go back to his personally moderated kiddy porn subreddits

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      With doxxing being the threat it is, I kind of get why a mod wouldn’t be comfortable with that. The absolute last thing any mod acting in good faith wants is for someone to track down and hurt in real life a member of their community. Telling people you will punch them for upvoting violent content could be seen as the first step to doxxing someone. It’s a bit over sensitive but we’ve all heard true horror stories about people getting doxxed.

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        i guess if viewed from an overly protective POV and maybe in a sensitive subreddit in subject matter, but in the more generic subs that make it to Popular regularly, quality shit posting needs to be considered and applauded as being such. Like if it was a subreddit for survivors of being punched by redditors, i would not make such a comment, very poor taste.

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      Ever since Spez took over, Reddit have been incredibly heavy-handed when it comes to enforcing their rules against inciting or glorifying violence, even if such a comment is directed towards people that are objectively hated, like nazis, pedophiles and child murderers. To that I’m not even remotely surprised that you got banned.

      Even posting that Nazis deserve to be punched in the face can get you a permanent ban from Reddit… You know… the people who over 80 years ago were responsible for gassing 6 million Jews, 6 million Russian POWs and thousands of homosexuals and political dissidents.

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        You now also get penalized for even upvoting content they find objectionable. (for example, comments containing the name Luigi)

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    I’m actually so happy to see the start of the fall of Reddit. It’s been going on for a couple years or so, but it is happening.

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      It’s so ironic how a site with a leftist lean just chose to alienate their core base. I guess their hope conservatives and liberals staying will make up for it? Lol

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          At least on Facebook you practically always choose friends to add, groups to join, pages to follow, etc. A surprisingly large number of Reddit users just stick to the default subreddits.

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        Leftist lean is a bit of an understatement. It’s not just Reddit. In general, the radical left is being recognized for the violence and chaos they’ve spread over the last decade and the government is realizing they were left unchecked for too long.

        Now they’re just being treated the same as the radical right.

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          Yeah man the radical left’s crazy violent agenda like… Free healthcare, and decent standards of living? No wait I mean the erosion of systems of inequality fuck wait no I mean uh labor rights and empowree workers wait shit no

          I’m starting to think the radical let’s crazy agenda is actually far less violent than the status quo

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          This is unhinged. The so called “radical left” is largely a scapegoat for the people that currently run the government. The “radical left” isn’t going around shooting up synagogues and black churches. Even the one act of violence the “radical left” supports was committed by somebody who clearly was more of a “radical centrist”

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          As a centrist, I don’t see the radical left being courted by the president, so I think your comment is presenting a bit of a false equivalence, champ.

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            I’m a centrist too…

            It’s crazy that a pendulum swings drastically back and forth isn’t it? Not a false equivalency if you have any understanding of historical geopolitics.

            If you marginalize and de-platform an entire half of your voter base, and cancel people for taking a centrist stance, they’re more likely to band together against your cause, doing more harm long term than if you just toed a rational line.

            IE. Because the right were treated the way the left are now being treated for so long, they were polarized and radicalized to the result of who your president is now.

            Also, not American, this isn’t just an American thing. This is happening globally.

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                Here is a great example of the “if you’re not with us you’re against us” mentality: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/28/centrism-insidious-bias-unjust-status-quo

                Reasonable views being cancelled:

                Bari Weiss: A former opinion editor and writer at The New York Times, Weiss is known for her centrist views, often critiquing both the far-left and far-right. In July 2020, she resigned from the newspaper, citing a hostile work environment and alleging that her centrist stances led to bullying by colleagues. ​

                Example of extremes people will go to silence the moderates…

                Stefan Gelbhaar: A member of Germany’s Green Party, Gelbhaar, associated with the party’s more centrist “Realo” wing, was forced to withdraw from the federal election race following false sexual harassment allegations. An investigation later revealed that the accusations came from a fictitious persona created by a local Green official, leading to internal tensions within the party.

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                  As a German I’m very familiar with the Gelbhaar case actually and it doesn’t have the slightest thing to do with centrism. It actually ended with the person pushing the fake accusations having to leave the party, but you knew that already.

                  I’ll look into the others when I’m home later.

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          I’d not be dismayed to see a bit of violence and chaos from the radical left but I’m struggling to think of examples - do you have some?

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              Okay, what violence did the pro-palestine movement spread, exactly?

              I can accept that some buildings got torched and property values temporarily reduced during the George Floyd protests, but when I hear violence, I think harm against flesh and blood, which the police did much, much more of. I can’t think of many instances where the protestors did that.

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              Those just come off as regular left to me.

              When I think of radical left I think tanky types who are full on nationalists and pro authoritarian governments that suppress free think that they are indistinguishable from the far right other than just differences when it comes to stuff like government assisted programs.

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              You are gonna have a hard time around this here social media, comrade, with these clown takes…

              There are better places for bootlickers out there

        • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world
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          We absolutely see lots of news about these violent communist uprisings. Definitely not something you’re imagining. Not at all.

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      They can’t like stop looting, for them it is is easier to run propaganda and censorship regime so they can keep fucking us.

      This is what a class war looks like in practice, and most people still denial about it.

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    Luigi is a hero.

    See how easy that is when you aren’t given the table scraps of the rich?

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    Yeah, I was banned for talking about suicidal thoughts, so they’re definitely going to ban me if I say Luigi Mangione is my hero and did a beautiful thing.

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        Yeah, thank you. My post was really just a “if things get bad enough, I can always blow my brains out which gives me a strange sense of comfort” sort of thing and it was flagged as threats of violence… against myself I guess? Silly. I will of course do my best to not let things get to that point and try to look for the positives in life.

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      That’s wild. I joined Reddit when everyone left digg, so 2008ish. There used to be a sub called /r/suicidewatch where you could post those kinds of thoughts safely. There can obviously be some issues with that but what a change

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    A Reddit spokesperson, who requested that The Verge not use their name due to the sensitive subject matter

    What the fuck is this? We’re granting corporate spokespeople anonymity now?

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      You give it to whoever asks for it or you never get another source again.

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          Was this corporate spokesperson authorized to talk to this outlet about this topic? Just because they’re a spokesperson doesn’t mean they can talk freely.

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            Yes, that’s what a spokesperson is. Did you read the article? If it was a leak that would have been stated.

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          Even though it’s a corporate spokesperson, they wouldn’t have requested anonymity if they were allowed to talk about it…

          • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
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            Untrue. Reddit employees doing what their bosses tell them to are justifiably afraid of the blowback. Reminds me of the directive to not wear Reddit branding with the 3rd party app thing These folks don’t want targets on their back.

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          In journalism, a source is a person, publication, or knowledge of other record or document that gives timely information. Outside journalism, sources are sometimes known as “news sources”. Examples of sources include official records, publications or broadcasts, officials in government or business, organizations or corporations, witnesses of crime, accidents or other events, and people involved with or affected by a news event or issue.

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            Take the link and scroll down to the section titled “ON BACKGROUND”

            Edit: I never learn how to not try to be helpful to hostile commenters. I’m legit just trying to clarify or explain.

            I tried to help someone who prefaced their confusion with an assertion that they were unwilling to read the linked material. This one’s on me, I guess.

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              I still don’t get it. Nothing there says a spokesperson is not a source. Which is good because saying such a thing would make absolutely no sense.

              I’m legit just trying to clarify or explain.

              Don’t know what makes you label me as “hostile”, I’m legit just trying to understand.

              they were unwilling to read the linked material

              It’s like 12 paragraphs of non-sense. The person who looked it up and shared the link could just as easily have copied and shared the relevant portion.

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                A corporate spokesperson spoke to them “on background”. A “corporate communications professional speaking to [them] in [their] official capacity“ has the option detailed in that section to request anonymity while being quoted.

                There must have been an agreement between The Verge and the corporate representative to speak without being identified beyond their affiliation with the company, as described In the section titled “on background”.

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      Uhh, isn’t that kinda against the whole point of being a spokesperson in the first place? To put a name and a face behind a message?

      Dunno why The Verge plays along.

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        Because The Verge wants them to return their calls. It’s not like it matters. Spokespeople aren’t the ones making decisions. It’s the C-suits, which is publicly available.

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      Actually, yeah. Otherwise, you fuck up whistleblowing. They could be in the position, realize what’s happening is wrong, be documenting it, trying to get out, etc…

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        Are you seriously suggesting there is no way to grant whistleblowers anonymity without granting it to corporate spokespeople providing statements on behalf of the company? You’re a fucking idiot

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        What the fuck is “the anti evil operations team”? That sounds like corpospeak for a team that does deeply evil shit

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        Spez is a loser with only millions, compared to his billionaire tech bros. This is the main reason he started ruining reddit in the past years, he is frustrated and wants to also become a billionaire like his buddies

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            In their minds, that’s literally it. They compare themselves to billionaires. Millionaires are just temporarily embarassed billionaires.

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      I’m definitely getting more and more hesitant to exercise free speech, due to rapidly increasing government monitoring and corruption.