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    That’s because at least before any other student group decided to storm government buildings which was rumored to happen despite there already many police and soldiers present, one group of “peaceful” protesters decided to kill over 100 soldiers on the same street and one day before tank man decided to jump on a tank.

    The “peaceful protest” was far more violent than the Jan 6 US insurgency was, since the US insurgents did not have such a violent group among them.

    That happened in 1989.

    It was the Capitol Hill Jan 6 insurgency or the similar Hong Kong 2019 insurgency but got way way more aggressive before any military action or counteraction was taken.

    What Jan 6 and Tianenmen square share though is that once the insurgency took place the military was called in, but during the Jan 6 Capitol Hill riots, the rioters Capitol Hill rioters actually all left, not wanting to confront the military, while at least some of the Chinese insurgents on the street stayed and died fighting, while people on the square were peacefully evacuated.

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      That’s because at least before any other student group decided to storm government buildings which was rumored to happen

      I wouldn’t find it surprising that some of the protestors suggested something like that. But the fact is that this didn’t happen, and the protestors (and bystanders) who were killed were not attempting to break into a government building, attack government officials, or overthrow the government. If they were killed by security guards while attempting to rush the palace, that would be different.

      one group of “peaceful” protesters decided to kill over 100 soldiers on the same street and one day before tank man decided to jump on a tank.

      The protestors did fight back. But that’s a way higher number for military deaths than I’ve seen recorded anywhere, and thousands of civilians (including a lot of bystanders) were dead before tank man did his thing.

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        and thousands of civilians (including a lot of bystanders) were dead before tank man did his thing.

        Source: it came to me in a dream

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            Lol. No. Wikipedia didn’t exist in 1989. Please learn what sources actually are, rather than doing the usual shitlib thing of assuming that Wikipedia is like the gold tablets of Joseph Smith; a divine font of perfect knowledge straight from God.

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              11 hours ago

              I’ve never had any major issues with Wikipedia but I know it can have issues.

              Do you have other sources you’d like to suggest I look at?

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        They didn’t “fight back”. They killed before any military action was taken.
        It was a violent attack. It was an actual attempt to insurgency, rather than the Jan 6 revolt.

        Only after the rioters killed over a 100 soldiers was military action taken.
        Only after scores of soldiers dead,
        did the military enter the street where the killings took place and did Chinese military kill the insurgents that killed their soldiers.
        And during this time the protesters from the square were evacuated due to heavy violence from this one group of rioters.

        What happened during Jan 6 was that the rioters all left the Capitol when the military arrived.
        The rioters of 1989 did not.

        The Jan 6 insurgents were more peaceful than the 1989 Tianenmen Square insurgents.

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          Only after the rioters killed over a 100 soldiers was military action taken.
          Only after scores of soldiers dead,
          did the military enter the street where the killings took place and did Chinese military kill the insurgents that killed their soldiers.

          Source? Because that doesn’t match up with what I’ve read, especially the numbers.