I’m not saying you didn’t work to get where you are, but if you ignore completely the chance and luck you had, then you’re just arguing in bad faith.
Even more so if you can’t see that people entering the workforce now have less chances and need more luck to get where you feel you worked hard to get.
I don’t rely on luck. Too risky. I do what I have to do and use what I’m given to make the best of my situation. Complaining and blaming others got me nowhere. I’m simply pointing out what I’ve witnessed over the last three decades.
The fact that I am using my high tech device to entertain myself by replying to your comment that you made using your high tech device to entertain yourself means that we are both in the upper percentiles of luckiest humans to ever have lived.
I am sitting at my engineering job that I really like as I type this. I have a bachelors degree and two masters degrees. I have worked for this shit, and I have pushed through my chronic disease despite seeing images of the literal brain damage I have from it. I am STILL extremely fortunate to be where I am. Most humans who have ever been born literally had no path to get here regardless of their health or upbringing. And I’d guess that the same is true for a majority of today’s living humans.
And I do not mean those statements with a negative connotation. You should take some of that innate positive outlook you have for the world and develop a feeling of being grateful for your good fortune in life. It’s literally good for you.
To pretend that your situation is solely because of your positive attributes as an individual is pretty arrogant and not conducive to personal growth.
Ok. So why would I live my daily life with a guilt complex? Yes I realize I wasn’t born into a slave labor camp in North Korea. But why would I dwell on that? I’m focused on my current situation. And trying to make that better
I’m focused on my current situation. And trying to make that better
Well, you’re doing that, but you’re also passing judgement on others (those you called out with your original “work ethic” comments) and painting them with a brush of laziness, or at the extreme, unethical behavior.
Ok. So why would I live my daily life with a guilt complex? Yes I realize I wasn’t born into a slave labor camp in North Korea. But why would I dwell on that?
This isn’t an effort to try to make you feel guilty for the luck you’ve had, its attempting to help you realize that not everyone has had the opportunities you have had in the past or continue to have. North Korea is an extreme example. It doesn’t need to be that extreme for someone to have not reached your levels of success even with the same level of effort on their part. A level of humility is important because it lets you recognize, in some capacity, you’ve had help getting where you are. That’s not something to be ashamed of either. Its something to be thankful for. More importantly, that others need help too and you may be in a position to contribute to that help in some major or minor way today or some point in the future.
I love helping others. Especially my neighbors and loved ones. I realize I am fortunate. I don’t need a Lecture. I’m directing my comments towards people I can relate to. Obviously, I can’t relate to people that live in forced labor camps. I believe the majority of people commenting here are currently living in a “free” society and have had the same opportunities I’ve had.
We, as people, make choices everyday. Those choices have consequences. Good or bad. Life is weird. It’s like a stage. We can act all.we want. But really, all we want at the end of the day is clean water, good food and a loving family. If I lived in a tent or a shack, as long as I had that, I would be happy. I’m easy to please I guess
Agreed that’s all we want… now imagine you’re one of the younger generation, expected to do as much or more work, for less than enough to afford said clean water, good food, and a family (proof, birth rates are extremely low. In my case it’s because there’s no way I could afford a child. I can barely afford the clean water and good food)
So… what’s the problem then? Why is it a problem that the younger generation refuse to be taken advantage of… Oh sorry,I meant work their assess off to be given a pittance and laid off in 2 months, sorry not sorry, it just isn’t profitable enough.
I believe the majority of people commenting here are currently living in a “free” society and have had the same opportunities I’ve had.
You can’t be serious.
Okay guys, I tried. I’ve hit my limit. I’m done. I’ll leave it to you others if you want to continue. This one believes, even now, that we’re all had the same opportunities he has. Yep, those with different skin colors, same opportunities. Different genitalia, same opportunities. Alternate sexual orientation, same opportunities. Born in different socio-economic conditions, you guessed it, same opportunities. Especially those born after about 1985 that entered the workforce during the worst financial crisis since 1929. All of us should have been equally successful. We just must not have tried hard enough because of “bad work ethic” that exists today. Thats the only explanation why we’re all not successful. /s
Seems to me more like you’re focused on how the younger generation doesn’t work hard enough, they aren’t where you are. Definitely proof they don’t work as hard as you to get where you are.
I don’t rely on luck. Too risky. I do what I have to do and use what I’m given to make the best of my situation.
You may not rely on luck, but do you recognize that you are at least the beneficiary of luck? You could be the exact same person you are born at two different times (or even the same time in two different geographies), and have drastically different opportunities available to you.
I’m not saying you didn’t work to get where you are, but if you ignore completely the chance and luck you had, then you’re just arguing in bad faith.
Even more so if you can’t see that people entering the workforce now have less chances and need more luck to get where you feel you worked hard to get.
I don’t rely on luck. Too risky. I do what I have to do and use what I’m given to make the best of my situation. Complaining and blaming others got me nowhere. I’m simply pointing out what I’ve witnessed over the last three decades.
The fact that I am using my high tech device to entertain myself by replying to your comment that you made using your high tech device to entertain yourself means that we are both in the upper percentiles of luckiest humans to ever have lived.
I am sitting at my engineering job that I really like as I type this. I have a bachelors degree and two masters degrees. I have worked for this shit, and I have pushed through my chronic disease despite seeing images of the literal brain damage I have from it. I am STILL extremely fortunate to be where I am. Most humans who have ever been born literally had no path to get here regardless of their health or upbringing. And I’d guess that the same is true for a majority of today’s living humans.
And I do not mean those statements with a negative connotation. You should take some of that innate positive outlook you have for the world and develop a feeling of being grateful for your good fortune in life. It’s literally good for you.
To pretend that your situation is solely because of your positive attributes as an individual is pretty arrogant and not conducive to personal growth.
Sure…I see your point. But I’m not gonna take my paycheck and go to the casino on the off chance I could double my money.
That is not what was meant by anyone here mentioning luck. I would think any reasonable person would understand this.
Ok. So why would I live my daily life with a guilt complex? Yes I realize I wasn’t born into a slave labor camp in North Korea. But why would I dwell on that? I’m focused on my current situation. And trying to make that better
Well, you’re doing that, but you’re also passing judgement on others (those you called out with your original “work ethic” comments) and painting them with a brush of laziness, or at the extreme, unethical behavior.
This isn’t an effort to try to make you feel guilty for the luck you’ve had, its attempting to help you realize that not everyone has had the opportunities you have had in the past or continue to have. North Korea is an extreme example. It doesn’t need to be that extreme for someone to have not reached your levels of success even with the same level of effort on their part. A level of humility is important because it lets you recognize, in some capacity, you’ve had help getting where you are. That’s not something to be ashamed of either. Its something to be thankful for. More importantly, that others need help too and you may be in a position to contribute to that help in some major or minor way today or some point in the future.
I love helping others. Especially my neighbors and loved ones. I realize I am fortunate. I don’t need a Lecture. I’m directing my comments towards people I can relate to. Obviously, I can’t relate to people that live in forced labor camps. I believe the majority of people commenting here are currently living in a “free” society and have had the same opportunities I’ve had.
We, as people, make choices everyday. Those choices have consequences. Good or bad. Life is weird. It’s like a stage. We can act all.we want. But really, all we want at the end of the day is clean water, good food and a loving family. If I lived in a tent or a shack, as long as I had that, I would be happy. I’m easy to please I guess
Agreed that’s all we want… now imagine you’re one of the younger generation, expected to do as much or more work, for less than enough to afford said clean water, good food, and a family (proof, birth rates are extremely low. In my case it’s because there’s no way I could afford a child. I can barely afford the clean water and good food)
So… what’s the problem then? Why is it a problem that the younger generation refuse to be taken advantage of… Oh sorry,I meant work their assess off to be given a pittance and laid off in 2 months, sorry not sorry, it just isn’t profitable enough.
You can’t be serious.
Okay guys, I tried. I’ve hit my limit. I’m done. I’ll leave it to you others if you want to continue. This one believes, even now, that we’re all had the same opportunities he has. Yep, those with different skin colors, same opportunities. Different genitalia, same opportunities. Alternate sexual orientation, same opportunities. Born in different socio-economic conditions, you guessed it, same opportunities. Especially those born after about 1985 that entered the workforce during the worst financial crisis since 1929. All of us should have been equally successful. We just must not have tried hard enough because of “bad work ethic” that exists today. Thats the only explanation why we’re all not successful. /s
Seems to me more like you’re focused on how the younger generation doesn’t work hard enough, they aren’t where you are. Definitely proof they don’t work as hard as you to get where you are.
You may not rely on luck, but do you recognize that you are at least the beneficiary of luck? You could be the exact same person you are born at two different times (or even the same time in two different geographies), and have drastically different opportunities available to you.