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      Nah, they want China to be “reunited” with Taiwan, and also doesn’t like Democrats because of the “migrant crisis”.

      Only reason why my US Citizen mom didn’t vote trump is because I told my mom to vote Harris because I invoked their fear of deportation by citing the Chinese Exclusion act 100 years ago, and said it could happen again. (I watched my mom filled the mail-in ballot)

      (Basically their mindset is: “Immigrant bad, unless its us” 🤦‍♂️)

      Btw, they still say that the 2nd trump term is gonna be “fine” and “its just like the first term, nothing bad will happen”

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        The first term wasn’t fine. Some of Trump’s “accomplishments” include raising the national debt significantly despite being part of a party that constantly claims they will deal with it, and poor actions which results in many deaths in the US during the pandemic. He also had secret conversations with Putin and may have transferred our secrets to Russia. Also he told the big lie and supported storming the capitol during J6.

        Here’s a non inclusive list of some the scandals during Trump’s first term: https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/antisemitism-alphabetical-guide-trump-s-worst-moments-n1245795

        The only reason his first term wasn’t even worse was because people stopped him. Now there are going to be less people to stop him. That’s why we must stay strong and vigilant and work towards getting as many Democrats elected locally in 2025 and nationally in 2026.

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          The man is literally a walking national security threat who has no problem blabbing state secrets for free because in his mind, it’s a way of showing how important he is.

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        When people say nothing bad happened I’m like “did everyone forget the huge amount of people who died needless deaths?”

        I swear we live in different worlds

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          I swear we live in different worlds

          I couldn’t agree more. A lot of my family are conservative and talk politics all the time, and whenever any scandal or poor decision is brought up from Trump’s first term, they always downplay it as if it was barely an issue. According to them, just about everything was outside of Trump and the Republican party’s control, taken out of context, or just outright didn’t happen. It doesn’t matter how much evidence you provide, they refuse to accept that someone they voted for may have done something bad.

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          I mean, they see it as mostly the virus’s fault, not really the government’s fault.

          Just like how they view the famine during the Great Leap Forward, not Mao’s fault, its just natural disaster.

          Also, my mom suggested that the virus could’ve possibly originated from the US as an engineered bioweapon against China…

          (the same virus somehow got into the US? 🤦‍♂️ Idk anymore, this world is so absurd with the assasination attempts, a convicted felon being elected president, and CEO getting shot, coup attempt in South Korea out of nowhere… I’m wondering if I’m in a dream/nightmare, its just bizzare…)

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            I mean, they see it as *mostly* the virus’s fault, not really the government’s fault.

            Which is funny since the Republican/conservative stance on the virus seemed to be “no big deal.”

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            Mao ordering the death of all sparrows, which then led to mass locust swarms eating all the crops, followed by mass starvation. Not his fault at all…

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              Um yea, tell that to my parents.

              Their logic is:

              Leader fuck up their leadership = Natural disaster

              People with non-visible diseases (such as: Depression) not being able to fuctions properly = Laziness

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        Nah, they want China to be “reunited” with Taiwan

        Under the KMT, not the CCP, right?

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        Never underestimate propaganda’s ability to make people believe contradictory messages simultaneously. They’ll just choose to believe whatever suits their immediate argument then flip without a single care of consistency. Don’t bother questioning it either because every excuse and justification and conspiracy theory in the book will come up and failing that, belligerence and aggression until you either back down or go away so as not to make them challenge their irrational beliefs.

        I could list out dozens but just the most common: government is both weak and ineffective yet pulls the strings of society in the background, the west is both weak and should just appease Russia because they won’t win yet is propping up Ukraine and presents an existential threat to Russia that supposedly justifies invasion, states should decide their own laws but not on issues they want to force onto others like abortion among many.