Summary

Mass graves uncovered in Syria after Bashar al-Assad’s overthrow reveal evidence of systematic atrocities, with over 100,000 people tortured and killed in what a top war crimes prosecutor described as the worst abuses “since the Nazis.”

Assad’s regime operated a “machinery of death,” involving mass disappearances, torture, and secret burials.

Rebel forces freed thousands of political prisoners, but many remain missing.

International efforts aim to document war crimes, though Assad, now in Russia, is unlikely to face trial.

  • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I really hope that there can be some sort of coalition for peace and recovery among the various Syrian forces now that Assad is out of power.

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      Mmm. We all know how this is going to go.

      The “good guys” are all of a sudden going to see the potential to have power over others, and then feel entitled to do whatever they can to maintain and expand that power.

      Before long, we have another Assad regime that’s different in name only.

      It’s a cultural problem, and greed is the root of it all.

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        They are both bad. But the Assad stuff is highlighted while Gaza is ignored. The selective standards are the problems.

        Comparisons to the Holocaust are suddenly possible without anyone saying “no the Holocaust was when people were burned so Gaza is not a Holocaust”. No semantics warriors show up to defend Assad.

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      Have they been in a prison where they were regularly and systematically tortured, and that for decades, before they ended up in those bags?

      Not even a fucking month has passed and people with .ml accounts are already trivialising Assad. Tankies gotta stick to their own, I guess.

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        I don’t understand this comment but yes the Palestinian in Gaza were in a giant prison, they get restricted access to food, no freedom of movement, and when they try to peacefully leave got shot in the knees by sniper.

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          And those who were in officially “Israeli” prisons, got raped according and torture.

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          You missed the industrial-scale torture part. There’s been some instances of torture, yes, but nothing even close to what happened in Syria in matters of both scale and systematics. The IDF, at large, has always been more interested in killing people than pure, unadulterated, sadism.

          You’re rightfully enraged about the plight of the Palestinians, now don’t turn around and deny the plight of Syrians by drawing false equivalences. If you want to draw an equivalence for the Syrian situation try North Korea.

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        Do not give them the satisfaction of being placed in the same category as their celebrity crushes. Assad is nothing like a goofy conspiracy theorist deep in the sheltered West.

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      Finally, a comparison which doesn’t fall flat on its face like much of the rest of this thread. The intensity in Cambodia was extreme, it was under four years and 1.5 to three million killed, tortured, experimented upon, you name it. Even with everything else assumed equal the Assads were way slower at doing things.

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      Or ISIS, literally in the same UN-recognised borders at the same time.

      I’m gonna chalk it up to this guy being a lawyer prosecuting a case.

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    Hard to say if they Palestinian holocaust when the zionists wont allow people to be recovered from the rubble, use mass graves, and have been clearing rubble and not adding to the body count at all. They are hiding the numbers. Even hiding as much as possible its still about 50k.

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      I feel bad for people like you sometimes. I promise you the republicans are not going to create mass graves with up to 500,000 dead

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        Robert Kennedy wants to bring back Polio.

        The Trump presidency will be littered with corpses.

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        I would much rather be surrounded by the people you’re surrounded by than keep hearing those exact promises out of the people I’m surrounded by.

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        Trump killed hundreds of thousands in his last presidency. He might break it this time if you combine both

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          700k died because of Trump’s COVID policies. Including the bleach and ivermectin thing. It was so prevalent for him to kill his followers, a subreddit was made called the Herman Cain Award.

          Now, Trump wants to traffick/“deport” 25mil Latinos, majority Native American, Christian, and Catholic group. A real attack on Christianity and I haven’t heard a single Christian care. And he wanted to be able to traffick them out of the Bahamas to countries they didn’t originate from, until the Bahamas said no recently.

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        So, Arab regimes in Egypt and Jordan are not?

        They’re all engaged in human rights violations but Syria wasn’t a US client state so it gets the Hitler treatment.

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            If they are pro US and kiss Israel’s ass their brutality is swept under the rug or whitewashed.

            You’ll never see articles like this for Sisi or King Tomato because the colonial powers are hypocrites. That’s my point.

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                Yeah so Pro US tyrants are “morons” but Assad is the most evil person ever (since Saddam Hussein presumably).

                Meanwhile Jolani is a cuddly jihadist who should be integrated into the West at light speed. The facts that he bends the knee to Israel while it is invading and bombing Syria is pure coincidence.

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      I sympathize with the message you want to bring across, what they do in Israel could never be the worst since the Nazis because they’re like us, they’re the only dem… I can’t even write that out because it’s such a propaganda lie, but yeah I get that.

      On the other hand let me just agree with the other guy that there are just shitty and shittier dictatorships in the Middle East. Some of them are aligned with the US, some with Russia, all of them are corrupt motherfuckers who belong in jail. Arab leaders have collectively betrayed their people and who knows if that region will ever be free of imperialist forces.

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    So really really bog standard socialist stuff.

    Why didn’t they compare it to Stalin? His worst abuses were after Nazis and it would’ve tracked more anyway because of the political angle and because both Stalin and al-Assad committed crimes on their “own people”.