Great job there Americans and a special shout out to White gen-X’ers for cutting your own soon to be retirement.

  • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    edit-2
    8 days ago

    There should be no tough choices here, it should only be about removing that stupid cap.

    Notwithstanding but it’s really damn stupid that my middle class ass stops paying into social security before the end of the year while the working class subsidizes me.

    • zod000@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      8 days ago

      I had no idea there was even a cap, that’s ridiculous. I don’t know a single middle class person IRL that earns enough individually to hit that cap though, so it is probably a bit regional since that cap feels like it would be awfully low in SV or a high COL city.

    • FlowVoid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 days ago

      Keep in mind that Social Security retirement benefits depend on your contributions. So by capping the amount you contribute, Social Security also caps the amount you will receive.

    • Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      8 days ago

      While I agree the cap needs to be removed. The cap is only stopping you from subsidizing more of the working class. They are not subsidizing you. The payout is also capped. You’re effectively paying a portion of your contribution to boost the payout of multiple other people who contributed less during their careers

      • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        8 days ago

        The way I see it, sure it’s capped, but I work a pretty good, white collar job, I’m going to statistically live longer than my blue collar peers drawing more over time and end of the day. I’m going to get a whole lot more out than the average blue collar worker and end result is that the working class is going and are subsidizing those rich people who are living longer putting that drain on resources.

        That’s just the way i see it.

        • Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          8 days ago

          That’s not the way the math works, regardless of how you “see it”.

          • Count042@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            7 days ago

            That is exactly the way the math works for anything resembling the concept of insurance.

            All of those programs are a form of insurance.

            You just don’t understand insurance.

            • Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              7 days ago

              No. Social security is not funded the same way that insurance is. We’re talking about the funding here, so the comparison does not work.

        • Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 days ago

          Why did you feel the need to say this twice?

          You’re now wing both times. Funding is very different from insurance, which was the entire point of this discussion.