Governmemts doesn’t care, any platform that empowers civillians to communicate with each other is “social media”. Governments love to control and restrict communications.
Lemmy would be considered social media. Eventually they would be requiring social media to verify IDs. So Lemmy instances will be required to verify IDs or be banned from certain countries.
Youtube got an exeption because Alphabet Inc. lobbied them to do so to get kids used to Youtube. Lemmy does not have the lobbying power like a mega corporation, plus, its a good excuse to get rid of a left-leaning platform, since governments tend to be against the left.
Well I hope Australians are a homogenous society. Like they don’t have racial minorities or LGBT kids that have to keep their identities closeted and have no one to talk to. Every Australian is so open and accepting amirite?
Imagine kids have conservative parents that would kick them out if they came out as LGBT, classmates are just constantly using “yo thats’s gay” as an insult, while teacher and administrators dismiss any reports bullying. Have no adult they trust, and the same conservative parents would not let them see a therapist because that being “weak”. Then when they wanna go online and vent and just have someone to talk to, the government steps in and “help” them by banning online communications.
But what about those Parental Responsibilities you were talking about earlier? Are you saying we now need extra social safety nets for kids who don’t fit the mold and get bullied? Extra places for them to learn and play under supervision? Because I don’t think that’s going to be economical without boarding them there, away from their parents.
Parents should be loving and caring and and set up restrictions on their phone and block acess to danger things, what these restrictions would entail is up to the maturity of each kid.
In the event that the parents are shitty horrible people, they should have supportative environment in school that can help them. Adults to talk to, classmates that friendly and form friendships
In case the parents are not just shitty, and become abusive, there should be a legal procedure to transfer them to suitable guardians.
Unfortunately, there are often shitty/abusive parents, school environment is also toxic, and then social services don’t do anything about it. Therefore there should not be any restriction by the government on the internet. In case 1,2 and 3 all fail, the internet provides a last resort for peer support.
Before attempting to restrict internet access, first fix everything else.
Solution is to fund a social safety net, not ban social media.
but but that requires actually effort and budget that we’d have to take away from Australian oligarchs!
if social media is fediverse, you’re right; if social media is agents of surveillance capitalism, fuck social media
what’s “social” about what most people call social media?
Governmemts doesn’t care, any platform that empowers civillians to communicate with each other is “social media”. Governments love to control and restrict communications.
Lemmy would be considered social media. Eventually they would be requiring social media to verify IDs. So Lemmy instances will be required to verify IDs or be banned from certain countries.
even YouTube got in an exception list. So it’s not an “all or nothing” approach, it seems.
Youtube got an exeption because Alphabet Inc. lobbied them to do so to get kids used to Youtube. Lemmy does not have the lobbying power like a mega corporation, plus, its a good excuse to get rid of a left-leaning platform, since governments tend to be against the left.
even “crash course” alone is enough of a reason to keep YouTube accessible
A social safety net you say… like a place we could gather all the children to teach them things and let them play under supervision?
So are we gonna put teens in kindergarden?
What? No! They can have their own age appropriate place to learn and play under supervision.
Well I hope Australians are a homogenous society. Like they don’t have racial minorities or LGBT kids that have to keep their identities closeted and have no one to talk to. Every Australian is so open and accepting amirite?
Imagine kids have conservative parents that would kick them out if they came out as LGBT, classmates are just constantly using “yo thats’s gay” as an insult, while teacher and administrators dismiss any reports bullying. Have no adult they trust, and the same conservative parents would not let them see a therapist because that being “weak”. Then when they wanna go online and vent and just have someone to talk to, the government steps in and “help” them by banning online communications.
“We Saved The Kids” Amirite?
But what about those Parental Responsibilities you were talking about earlier? Are you saying we now need extra social safety nets for kids who don’t fit the mold and get bullied? Extra places for them to learn and play under supervision? Because I don’t think that’s going to be economical without boarding them there, away from their parents.
Parents should be loving and caring and and set up restrictions on their phone and block acess to danger things, what these restrictions would entail is up to the maturity of each kid.
In the event that the parents are shitty horrible people, they should have supportative environment in school that can help them. Adults to talk to, classmates that friendly and form friendships
In case the parents are not just shitty, and become abusive, there should be a legal procedure to transfer them to suitable guardians.
Unfortunately, there are often shitty/abusive parents, school environment is also toxic, and then social services don’t do anything about it. Therefore there should not be any restriction by the government on the internet. In case 1,2 and 3 all fail, the internet provides a last resort for peer support.
Before attempting to restrict internet access, first fix everything else.
So you do want a nanny state.
The term “nanny state” typically refers to a government that intrude on every aspect of life that should not be the role of government.
Examples:
What food to eat.
Clothing to wear.
Places you are allowed to go.
What time you have to return home.
Bed times.
Having a non toxic school envionment or invervening in cases of child abuse is not typically under the unbrella of “nanny state”.
Otherwise you’d be saying that any country that protects against child abuse to be a “nanny state”.