• ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 day ago

    If your arguments actually referenced mine in any meaningful way you would know I have addressed these points in this comment section multiple times. As it stands, a casual refutation of your arguments is now sufficient. edit: typo

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      1 day ago

      I have addressed these points in this comment section multiple times.

      Yes, with “leverage power we don’t have against people who would rather lose than stop throwing people under the bus.”

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        1 day ago

        We do have this power. We elected Joe Biden in 2020. Your argument pretends we don’t at the expense of minorities and our ability to prevent the worst outcomes of climate change.

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          We do have this power. We elected Joe Biden in 2020.

          And oh shucky dern, his hands were always conveniently tied. Except when it came time to sell weapons for genocide.

          Your argument pretends we don’t at the expense of minorities and our ability to prevent the worst outcomes of climate change.

          Democrats consider minorities expendable in their unending quest for Republican votes.

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            And oh shucky dern, his hands were always conveniently tied. Except when it came time to sell weapons for genocide.

            You don’t actually care about minorities. Even more people would dead by now under four years of Trump. That’s immaterial to you.

            Democrats consider minorities expendable in their unending quest for Republican votes.

            So do you. Except you want moral victory over the Democrats.

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              23 hours ago

              So do you. Except you want moral victory over the Democrats.

              I’ve spent the past few decades wanting that party to move to the left and voting for them. They did what you wanted instead and moved to the right.

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                17 hours ago

                I’ve spent the past few decades wanting that party to move to the left and voting for them. They did what you wanted instead and moved to the right.

                I don’t want Democrats to move to the right. I want people to stop hunting for a moral victory over the Democrats. Progressives voting for them is how we get them to move to the left.

                Your argument is fully a straw man now.