• LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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    The Narcissist’s Prayer

    That didn’t happen.

    And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.

    And if it was, that’s not a big deal.

    And if it is, that’s not my fault.

    And if it was, I didn’t mean it.

    And if I did, you deserved it.

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      A lot of people are going to suffer who didn’t vote for him. This is as callous as the fascists.

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          Can you see how that doesn’t change the response you replying to?

          Some people didn’t vote for him

          Well other people didn’t vote

          Are two unrelated statements.

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        Sure and that’s a sacrifice that America voted for and also literally didn’t even bother voting against.

        After nearly half a decade of disappointment, I this it’s high time Americans felt the pain of their actions.

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      The people who voted for evil do.

      The people who failed to vote against evil do, but less.

      The people who voted against evil? No fuckin chance.

      “America” is too wide a brush, but I get talking that way.

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        Pour one out for all the people drilled into being ultra-gullible when it comes to Fox&Co-Conspirators and completely immunised to viewpoints that contradict the propaganda machine. Would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

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        I guess the issue is that, assuming a turnout of 60% for simplicity, the undeserving third category you mention only makes up roughly 30% of eligible voters. Which means 70% of eligible voters are deserving of what’s coming to them (according to you). I acknowledge that throwing the whole country into the same bucket is not a fair and helpful simplification, but it’s becoming increasingly harder to resist the urge.

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      Conservative / fascist leaders deserve it, the rest of us do not. The kids who were too young to vote, the leftists who fight against fascism, and the workers who don’t have the time to follow politics do not deserve any of what is to come.

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        Young voters voted for Trump. Tons of kids support him: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/07/young-men-voters-trump-2024-exit-polls

        Unionized workers had grassroots support for Trump: https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/teamsters-endorsement-harris-trump-2024

        Staunch democrats sat out, or protest voted: https://www.axios.com/local/detroit/2024/11/07/why-biden-outperformed-harris-throughout-metro-detroit

        Ignorantia juris non excusat. Ignorance of the law excuses not.

        America is objectively, measurably, ignorant, trapped in bubbles, and we collectively did little to lift each other out. We are going to face justice for it.

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          Can’t wait to see all the sad Pikachu faces when he guts union protections and outlaws public sector unions altogether. “Can’t wait”

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            “Why do liberals do this to us? This is a failure of the demonrat party, next time I’m voting for Trump harder, he promised to help us”

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              Which is what happened in 2016 exactly.

              Lard ass promised to “make coal mining great again”.

              They got nothing, which was to be expected.

              Biden, as much as I find faults with him, actually did come through big for unions and the unions members, I’m sorry but they’re not the brightest here and we’re failed by their union leadership and by Democrats to get it through their thick skulls that Democrats actually did a shit ton for them and had their backs.

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                “Yeah, but liberal Hollywood offended me with their wokeness”. Or, “Yeah, but the smartypants college grads talked down to me”

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        You had me until that last group.

        If you opt out of participating, you deserve whatever happens without you.

        We’re in this mess arguably because of all the people who chose not to participate.

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          The left cuts down their candidates and elected officials over any faults, while the right uplifts them regardless of any faults. Is it any surprise the Dems always look bad in comparison to an uninformed voter.

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            The left has no candidates. The last time centrists didn’t get 100% of everything they wanted, they formed a PAC to try to get McCain elected, but they’ll certainly get mad at anyone who even considers expecting better.

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              I guess the theory is if people sit it out, handing it to the Republicans, the Dems will get shocked into moving left in the future? Seems like a gamble to me. Wouldn’t it make more sense to do that during primary season?

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                No. There is literally nothing that can happen and certainly nothing I can say that will get spoiled centrists to ever accept that in order to get voters to the polls, you might have to get only 98% of everything you want.

                You need to court voters. You consider such behavior beneath you.

                The party is willing to throw anyone but Netanyahu and Cheney under the bus and has no fucking clue at all why people stay home.

                Second worst isn’t sufficient to win. Blaming the voters because you don’t want to be better won’t change that.

                And primary season?! What primary season? Democrats haven’t had a primary without a preordained winner since 2008. We didn’t even have primaries this year. And the last time centrists didn’t get their very first choice in the primaries, they formed a PAC to get McCain elected. Don’t preach about primaries when they’re a sham and you always get what you want out of them.

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      Yeah, except only a minority of the population voted for this. It’d be great if only they bore the fruits of their stupid labors.

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      Not everyone voted for Trump, but even so, people don’t deserve pain just because they’re bad.

      Stop this puritanical bs.

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          No one “deserves” pain.

          Sometimes you have to apply harm to stop greater harm, but the concept of “deserving” harm is disgusting.

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              If I have to use violence on someone, I am sad that the situation is such that I have to do so, and I wish it weren’t so.

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                This doesn’t mean they don’t deserve it. It just means you are sad it had to come to this. The fact that you had to resort to violence, due to how awful they are, means they deserved it. Had they not deserved it, you wouldn’t have great cause to be violent. Unless you are becoming violent towards people that would respond to lesser input, they deserved it.

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        Nazis deserve no quarter. Learn some history, you’re edging pretty close to Nazi apologia.

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        No, but it is a democracy and so just how the racists had to put up with Biden, now everyone else has to put up with The Racist.

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    Republicans consider a “joke” to mean what they retroactively designate something that they meant in earnest as soon as they get pushback.

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      They are. But it’s also beyond that. It’s cult shit. That’s why they even have some smart people. Cause they’re in a cult. Even when they know it’s bullshit, they feel it’s their job to defend it

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          I wish I knew how to grift. I would love to make money off these idiots, maybe set up an Etsy shop with fake Trump shit and fleece them

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            I was just thinking something like this the other day. I can see what is coming and I know there is a way to make money off of it.

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    I also argued with someone who said the information was a badly organized protest and said I was overreacting lol

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    RumbaGPT, how will this play out?

    He’s probably just joking and if he’s not, it’s not so bad and if it is that bad it won’t affect you and it if will you deserve it

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    He was joking. There are many sarcastic jokes on X right now saying 2025 was the diabolical plan all along. Agenda 47 is still the trump plan.

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      Trump was already facing multiple criminal and civil suits in 2016. They had 8+ years to hold him accountable for even a single thing, and didn’t.

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        He cheated before the 2016 election by committing dozens of felonies, and we were unable to sentence him before the 2024 election. Sad.

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        Yeah this is an important point. If the system lets guys like Trump get away with obvious crimes for 8 years, and that’s when it’s working as intended, then the system needs to be dismantled. Maybe the only way to drain the swamp is to let it turn into a sinkhole that drags everything down with it. Not that we have much choice in the matter at this point.

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          The thing is that even though Trump is incredibly stupid and incompetent, the people influencing him aren’t. It will never completely fail, regardless of how bad it gets for the average person. They’ll ensure that it meets their needs until we’re right back to living in a medieval feudal system. Hell, we’re almost there already, except there’s still some pretty comfortable people in the middle. But that class is rapidly shrinking, and the feudal lords are tightening their grip.

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          Don’t destroy swamps. They’re massive sinks of carbon and havens for biodiversity. Leave the swamp alone.

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    “He’s probably just joking” is something I heard so much over the past few years about things the right has been spewing. THEY ARE NOT JOKING, THEY ARE NEVER JOKING! I don’t know how this is a hard thing to understand.

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      Also, if they are lying about these things, why did they vote for a liar? A lot of people who called agenda 2025 fake or lies still voted for the party representing it.

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      Trump says ‘I don’t kid’ after aides argue he was joking about slowing coronavirus testing.

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      Also, why the fuck is it cool for a politician to joke about doing shit? Literally any joke is not cool.

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      Fuck, my neighbor says the same every time Trump says something awful. “Trump just talks a lot of shit, he’s just joking.”

      Fuck you neighbor, you approved leadership from the guy who encouraged putting kids in cages.

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        Putting kids in cages to sell them.into child sex trafficking because trump and his cronies ARE THE PEDOPHILES THAT MAGA IS LOOKING FOR

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        I’m sorry I thought we were having an election for president, not jester.

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      They lie all the time.

      we just don’t get to know when it’s happening. People that trust those guys go with a “this is too horrible, so they must be lying” heuristic, that has been proven not to work several times. The problem is that an heuristic is not supposed to be reliable, and it’s hard to make them see beyond the noise.