• chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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    As a Canadian, I say this with the utmost sincerity: if you’re thinking of moving here because you’re a leftist, don’t. Canada is about to take a huge swing to the right in next year’s election. People are extremely sick of Trudeau and his refusal to withdraw from the upcoming election (he’s been in power for 9 years) will take his party down with him.

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      Also, you can’t afford a house, car ownership is mandatory, and we do nothing to stop our oligarchs from creating monopolies and playing silly little games like price fixing groceries.

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      If you’re a leftist, wouldn’t that situation make you want leftists to move there? Wouldn’t that be a (tiny) net positive?

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        Leftists moving here now are not going to get citizenship in time to vote in the next election. The visa -> PR -> citizenship path takes years and years.

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          Yabbut, electoral politics isn’t the only way to make a community better.

          I just read a story yesterday about a community in northern Maine that ran a neo-Nazi out of town. For example.

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            If your goal is to make things better, wouldn’t you be best positioned to do that in your own community? Moving to a new place with its own unique set of problems is challenging enough as it is. To hope to make a difference there is going to involve learning about local issues. Unless you mean something more generic, like volunteering in soup kitchens, homeless shelters, literacy programs, etc. which are everywhere and always can use extra help.

            I’d assumed that people worried about fallout from the US election are worried more about their own situation: their rights and freedoms, personal safety, and economic situation. Moving to Canada could definitely improve some of those issues while exacerbating others. Housing in Canada (especially in big cities like Toronto and Vancouver, but not at all limited to those cities) is generally much less affordable than the U.S. outside of the big cities there (New York, San Francisco, LA, Seattle). Many people who move here find it very challenging unless they already have a bunch of wealth saved up.

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      2 months ago

      We’ve just seen that stepping aside is pointless without a popular candidate to step up. Neither the Liberals nor the NDP have anyone.

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    I mean, the paperwork is probably online so you could get a head start, but I wouldn’t get your hopes up for fast bureaucracy nor cutting the line. Plus we just cut down on immigration to play along with your trend.

    Don’t hold your breath.

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        Depends on where you go and what you do. Foreign investment is a problem in the big cities, small towns saw a surge in prices when everyone left the office for lower costs of living, but they’ve stabilized. It’s not good, not horrible.

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    As a Canadian, please don’t come here (unless your reproductive rights/ bodily autonomy are under direct threat)

    Sometimes I feel hopeless with our political parties and economy up here and think about moving out of country and then I remember that as a citizen I have a duty and responsibility to remain a voice of reason in my community.

    As a US citizen you are afforded real rights that citizens in other countries do not have. For example: In Canada we don’t have rights, we have freedoms. Those freedoms can be suspended by the government at any time.

    Be the change. Fix your system. Help turn your nation into the example for the global west that it always aspired to.

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      Speaking as a Canadian, if you feel like your personal safety and bodily autonomy is threatened in a way that can be improved by moving here, you are welcome. It’s called the Charter of RIGHTS and Freedoms. We absolutely have rights.

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      Imagine if Canada built a wall to keep out all the immigrants from their southern border.

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    The number of Americans I meet who think that Canada is just “USA 2” is staggering.

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      That’s what I’m considering once they start killing or putting people into camps (might not happen this 4 years, but that is objectively what they are trying to do). I’m learning Japanese and they have been increasing their protection rate of refugees, and Germany’s rate is routinely very high (last i checked) so that’s an option too.

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    and the 10 people total who actually do are in for a rude awakening once they realize what canadian politics are like

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      Showing up in Alberta with your COEXIST bumper sticker and immediately getting shanked by a dozen MAGA heads with Nazi tattoos

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    This query was most popular in Vermont.

    the related queries (statistically correlated based on time, etc):

    • “how to move to australia from usa”
    • “how to move to scotland from us”
    • “english speaking countries”
    • “where to move if trump is elected”
    • “how to move to germany from the us”
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      Not as much as the US if anything I read on the internet is true. (Some of it has to be, right?)

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        I’m not scared of getting pregnant, breaking a bone or being gay, if that’s what you mean. Racism is… slightly better than the US.

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        At least cities and towns aren’t controlled by the state in the US and actually have rights. Just look at Toronto. Canada government structure is fucked. If you get fascists at the state level you’re screwed!