This instance has defederated from hexbear.net for violating our rules against propaganda as outlined in our Terms of Service. If you are unfamiliar, federation means two servers sync and host each other’s content. Defederation stops us from syncing their content to our server.

  • Luci@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    This is a bad take. Server admins have the final say on who they federate with. I prefer to be on an instance that bans tankies and other poorly moderated instances. Heck, I support defederating with lemmy.ml because it’s users seem to be confused about what freedom is.

    • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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      2 days ago

      no one’s arguing that they can’t make up their own rules.

      also let people on other instances believe whatever they want; it has no bearing on you and you can block them and entire instances for yourself if you need to.

      i don’t want power tripping mods/admins or suppressive policies to make that decision for me; that’s why so many people and I left reddit; i’m an adult who can make up my own mind and the lemmyverse already has the tools to empower me to do so.

      this isn’t reddit or a walled garden; in the fediverse it’s the vegetables section of a community garden that was designed to maximize cross pollination and defederation episodes like this are like trying to install a permeable gate that don’t stop that cross pollination.

      • Corgana@startrek.website
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        2 days ago

        The concept of defederation is literally the single most important core feature differentiating the Fediverse from centralized social media. I find it interesting that you feel employing it to be antithetical to the concept of federated networks.

        • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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          2 days ago

          Yes it was and its misapplication in targeting the same group repeatedly is laying bare its flaws and that’s why it doesn’t work

          • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            4 hours ago

            If that same group would stop repeatedly evading bans and defeds then it wouldn’t keep happening, but since tankies’ entire existence is predicated on proselytizing to unwilling “heretics” and being as rude as they possibly can while doing it because, like the mormons, it isn’t about actually getting converts it’s about getting people to hate them so they can feed their persecution complex, here we are.

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            1 day ago

            Hexbear is still online and available to anyone who wants to read the content so I’m confused as to what point you’re trying to make. If you want users to be forced to interact with other users that’s what Reddit is for.

            • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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              1 day ago

              defederation is creating bubbles with communities that have little to no activity & content and that’s going to drive away more people than any tankie ever could.

              • YeetPics@mander.xyz
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                1 day ago

                Could it be that the behavior of hexbears created the bubble?

                Perhaps most groups don’t want to associate with fascist apologists.

                • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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                  1 day ago

                  Could it be that the behavior of hexbears created the bubble?

                  how so?

                • Corgana@startrek.website
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                  1 day ago

                  Literally how it was designed! I will never understand the people who think “free speech” means everyone else has to be forced to listen to them.

                  • Luci@lemmy.ca
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                    1 day ago

                    I want problem communities to be isolated from the larger population

      • Luci@lemmy.ca
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        1 day ago

        I think this community on this instance might not be the right community for you.