The hexbear instance. I have a fascination where everytime I see a post I can’t help but try to understand the thought process logically. I can only ever come up with deliberate misinformation or genuine dillusion.
I realised the rest of this comment is just me stream of consciousness trying to understand something so feel free to stop reading here.
One thing I personally can’t understand is their defending to the death of every socialist government. But by that I mean every government that has called itself socialist or been called socialist by the US as some sort of justification for undermining them, not if they’ve actually done anything socialist. Like do we have to simp for North Korea. They are probably the furthest country in the world from what I’d consider socialist. Every government does bad things you don’t have to defend them because they ideologically allign with you on paper. And the same logic goes for any country that doesn’t allign with you having only bad ideas and obviously they then must be fascist/ follow nazi ideology. Like what?? Is there no nuance here. Please if there are any actual genuine humans on hexbear can you talk to me about that instance. I what’s going on over there?
Religion, nothing but group psychosis
Things atheists should stop saying 🔼
I agree with you.
People should absolutely be free to practice any religion they want in the US.
People shouldn’t be able to shove religion in your face or the opposite of athiests trying to shove non-religion in everyone’s face.
A true athiest is just as “delusional” as a true religious person. Both believe their idea is right on “beliefs.” No proof God or gods exist or not.
Most “athiests” are agnostic athiests, not gnostic athiest.
World would be a better place if “athiests” went more by agnostics.
Saying you’re athiest to a religious person is saying “I know your religion is wrong”. Saying you’re agnostic to a religious person is saying “I don’t know, but I don’t necessarily agree with you.”
There is currently no way to know. That is a fact, a hard truth. Thinking you have a way to know one way or the other is “crazy”
Telling other people what to do, how novel
You think you’re smart with these quips?
Reality is but a quip. If only it were that simple. Ignorance is bliss. Not equally nor any other fashion. There is belief in fairy tales and there is not.
I mean, it’s the community that keeps people around. The rules and dogma push people who aren’t being served well by the community out.
So in group this is natural to say. But external, directed at religious peoples, it’s not going to do the work of bringing them into your community. It’s not welcoming and it serves to push people to build walls rather than promote a change in thinking.
So i think you’re right in the context of being in community with a believer, but the comment wasn’t about that to begin with.
Alternatively, it’s hard to see how much religion is pushed until you’re outside of it. It’s like the opposite of getting a new (to you) car or phone. When you are, all of a sudden you realize how saturated everything is with it. It’s like living off the end of the runway of an international hub airport, there’s no rest.
I don’t deny there’s an element of groupthink within the Christian community that keeps its participants ensnared in the system while also alienating potential partakers, but adding the word ‘psychosis’ - like the user i responded to did - is rather disrespectful of the Christian position. You’d be falling victim to the outgroup homogeneity bias where you perceive individuals separate from your in-group as being alike and less diverse than yours. Just because you see many delusional participants does not mean all participants are equally as delusional.
Classifying belief in Christianity as psychosis simply shows one’s ignorance as they think one can only be religious if they’re “insane” which is just not the case since there are many who participate in Christianity with perfectly reasonable reasons.
I’m an atheist, but i think it’s high time, as atheists, we stopped making these stupid ad hominem attacks towards differing ideas.
Taking the position gay/trans people shouldn’t exist is abhorrent.
You’d be falling victim to the outgroup homogeneity bias where you perceive individuals separate from your in-group as being alike and less diverse than yours. Just because you see many delusional participants does not mean all participants are equally as delusional.
The thing is, the second you let in a Nazi, it becomes a Nazi bar.
Also, yes we all know how indoctrination works.
Taking the position gay/trans people shouldn’t exist is abhorrent.
Once again, you’re committing the same mistake as before. You’d be surprised to learn that the discourse concerning this is more nuanced than before.
Also, non-acceptance of LGBTQ groups isn’t actually a disproof of religion. I mean think about it. Christianity is an absolutist doctrine, that means that regardless of what you feel or how the times have changed, Christian law remains absolute. If an all powerful being deems it so that homosexuality is a sin, then all power to him really. You don’t have to like it, but that’s the reality you’re presented with if the Judeo-Christian God actually exists.
I answered a simple question with a simple answer. You proved the point better than I ever could have. Now tell us how to think and talk again.
The only thing atheists should stop doing is tolerating the nonsense of the religidiots.
And what’s this nonsense?
Social media
That we are emotional animals that sometimes have logical thoughts. But we live in a society (at least in the west) where we have to pretend that we are logical animals that sometimes have emotions.
The actual reality of humanity. Everything we do is fucking weird if you overthink it, and I constanly have a feeling of surrealness when focused on the real world around me instead of lost in my own thoughts. Reality is too real to be real.
I dissociate a lot so that’s probably why.
Hi - are you me? I’ve been so deep down this rabbit hole lately, regularly having little existential crises.
In my opinion, nothing should exist. But at the same time, nothing shouldn’t exist - because nothing is still something. The fact that we are here is both baffling and eerie.
My other hot take has been that this moment right now could be the only moment. Who’s to say that anything has ever happened? If we give context to an LLM, doesn’t that determine its reality? The more I research neural networks, the more it feels like the ‘big bag’ is more akin to flipping on the CPU, processing at the speed of light. But even then - if our existence isn’t real, whatever is beyond us is still something, which still shouldn’t exist.
It’s all very weird - makes me feel like nothing matters, but also that the only things which matter are the things that I make matter. And I’m just having this human experience. Very weird. Would not recommend.
/ramble
Imagine like… a fully transparent bus full of people, just a bunch of people sitting on nothing in a group flying through the air. If that was normal, that would be… normal. We wouldn’t question it, we’d just be so cool with that happening.
And that’s the exact feeling I get a lot throughout my day.
Yes! Someone gets it! 🥹
Mu desperate need to continue using arch.
Boomer Patients that are not chronically ill but just get into the healthcare system for a rather small malady.
They.are.the.worst.
The human body. We often take it for granted, but when you start looking at all the different things individually, you’ll see how enormously complex the human body is.
They found a new organ (nr 54 IIRC) just some years ago.
News and people giving a shit about sports ball.
It’s fun to play and complete in your local sportsball league. It’s exercise while being fun. Spectating is fun when watching a sport that you also play. Seeing the pros play is it properly lets you bring something back to your own game. I don’t actually care who wins. That’s tribalism.
Going to a “sports” bar to watch fat people get drunk and place bets makes no sense to me.
I also hate sports trivia. It’s just celebrity trivia but for people to star on the field instead of in movies. If I get asked who won a particular award in a particular sport in a particular year, I would have absolutely no idea. If you aksed me to explain the “infield fly” rule, I’ve got that covered.
And yes, a full 8 minutes of the nightly news covering sports is just insane. I just don’t care.
IMO, this is the most rational stance to have, regarding sportsball.
My bosses and their decisions.
American politics.
Americanpolitics.It’s exhausting.
GenZ
Fucking boomer, lol
Boomers
Fucking Gen-Z, lol
The expectation that people in office jobs can be productive for 8 hours per day.
Some days, like once every two years, you actually do it by accident; you come in, get shit done all day, and you get like a months amount of work done.
And then you get all nervous that someone might find out and set new expectations for you, so you have to kind of spread out the results of the work you did on that miracle day.
Well, I generally come in at least fifteen minutes late, ah, I use the side door–that way Lumberg can’t see me, heh–after that I sorta space out for an hour. I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I’m working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too. I’d say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.
I am productive for less than an hour a day. I don’t do anything. I have nothing to do. I drive for an hour each way to sit and do absolutely nothing so I can feed and house my family.
Some days I have to convince myself not to drive my truck into something at 85 mph. No person is meant to live like this.
The alienation of labor is real. Hang in there, we’ll need you when things get better.
Can’t you do something yoh like for the rest of the time? (I don’t mean LITERALLY the other 7 hours xD) Like reading, learning to draw,
learn Thai on duolingoetc.I try. I can’t really look like I’m not working or I’ll get in trouble. Sometimes I read, but that gets boring after a while.
I relate to you. I only have about 2ish hours of actual work a day on average, and I have to drag it out all day just to look busy. I never expected that it would feel soul sucking to have so little work but still be chained to your desk. I thought I was lucky! (And I certainly am in someways)
The irony is that when I first started, I was efficient and would read when I didn’t have anything to work on. But my boss didn’t like to see me reading, so he would give me more work. The issue is that there is only so much he can do at a time, so it resulted in me finishing assignments, and him being so overloaded he wouldn’t get to them until weeks or months later. Now I just pretend to be busy, so he doesn’t feel like he needs to give me more, and I’m not having to remind him of documents in review that are weeks old.
Sorry for the rant, I am currently sitting here pretending to be busy while slowly dying inside.
I agree! I’ve spent years perfecting the art of looking busy, and that makes my free time more enjoyable. Although there still are rough days.
How do they pay you to do nothing?
It’s fairly common. We have a team of 11 people that does the work of half a person. The 8 person team I’m on now does less work than I did by myself 2 years ago on a different team between those 2 teams, there are also 4 managers
That’s a fantastic question. The company is foreign owned and it’s just a sales office. The CEO is a fantastical liar that hides things well, and firing a bunch of people would not look good for him. As long as we are making a profit, no one really analyzes how much fat could be trimmed. I don’t even care if it were me to get laid off either. Actually, please lay me off.
Bars with parking lots.
Gas stations that sell booze
Drive throughs at liquor stores
