This feels like such a weird exercise to even attempt. It’s been 42 years, tens, if not hundreds of thousands of games and dozens of generations of hardware. What do you mean top 100?
I mean, they do explain how they put the list together, I just think it is the peak of listicle absurdity. Not because Stardew Valley doesn’t belong, just as a thing to do. Balatro is neat, but there are like 200 90s CRPGs I’d have to finish before I make that commitment to “8th best PC game of all time”.
It’s pretty clear after skimming the list that this is a top 100 games we liked from recent years and a few classics that if we don’t mention people will get mad.
They break down how they put it together and the recency bias is deliberate, they want to keep it moving, so they weigh newer games so they can cycle and keep driving those clicks.
I mean, I get it, it’s all arbitrary anyway and you don’t want to just chuck The Secret of Monkey Island at the top and let the list stay the same for the next four decades.
First things first, they need to get the playstation games off the list. Death Stranding is a fantastic playstation game, but it has no business being on a “best PC games of all time list”.
Yeah, that stands out. Is Persona 5 one of the best PC games ever? Woof, I don’t know. I’m not sure it’d even be at the top of my Persona/Megaten list.
But that’s superseded by the aburdity of implicitly having to make a call on whether Alley Cat is a better game than Cyberpunk 2077 or Ultima IV a better game than Hollow Knight. What are we even talking about at that point?
There’s literally one single RPG game from 90’s on that list, Planescape Torment, what are you on about? If anything, the list is skewed with how many games there are new ones. I mean Baldur 3 is good but nowhere near the best PC game ever, not even the best PC rpg game ever (that would be KotOR 1 which isn’t even on the list despite worse 2 made it). And too much black horse fads like balatro.
You minsunderstand what I’m saying. My point is that I would have to play all the CRPGs that ever existed before I commit to accepting any game as one of the top 100, especially if it’s a newer game.
There are just too many games on PCs to make this type of generalization in any way that makes sense.
Fair enough.
It definitely is on MY 100 list forever, but other games on their list are definitely not on mine. Also a list that doesn’t include Gothic 1 or 2 is inherently flawed. ;)
I understand that these lists create clicks, so it is probably worth the hassle for them to spent a lot of time compromising on it. It is also the list of 2024 - so it is not a final thing just a glimps into their current thoughts lasting 12 months until the next list, so recency bias is fine.
For what YOUR top 100 are I recommend checking out https://www.grouvee.com/ and sharing your thoughts and reviews and keeping your collections organized. It is free and the community is welcoming and well moderated.
I recommend checking out https://www.grouvee.com/
Thanks I will check out
Recency bias. But I think it’s understandable.
Disco fucking Elysium, babes! Play it, live it, take it out to dinner!
Then lie down and try not to cry about the corpo bullshit that killed ZA/UM.
The most disco way to go out, though.
I keep giving up on Disco Elysium. What makes it so great in your opinion? Hopefully you can awake the Disco beast in me, because I really want to like it
I probably experienced disco Elysium differently from the average player so maybe my experience might be useful?
I’m not super big into RPGs that emphasize on the RP part and I’m also not super big into reading massive a walls of text. The uncut version is at least voiced but it’s way too slow so I ended up turning it off at some point because the talking was distracting me from skimming and skipping.
I will admit I also didn’t “get” the game for like 70% of it. The game was text heavy to begin with but I played a max encyclopedia character first which just added even more text. Then on top of this I played the game like I do other games which is to exhaust all dialog options which makes it even longer (and yes I know this can be unoptimal but part of the fun for me exhausting the options was also to see how different options screwed me over).
I think at some points I just started skimming the text and advancing just to move the plot or subplot along because at times it really does feel like the plot is just not moving at all.
In retrospect this actually worked really well for me. Did I know everything by the end of the game? Probably not but I was actually able to complete the game which I don’t think I would have had I not just started skipping text.
Then I played through the game 4 more times.
The funny thing is I probably got more enjoyment out of the game on my second play through. The first playthrough got me immersed into the world just enough to appreciate the writing on the second play through. I also figured out how to “approach the game better” after completing it once. I was min maxing my first playthrough and subsequent playthroughs allowed me to chill a bit on that front. Although I did do one play through super min maxed just for fun.
Tl;dr I sort of speed ran the game on my first attempt then I played it again 4 more times and I ended up enjoying the game a ton.
I think it’s mostly about the atmosphere, the vibe and immersing yourself in the world of Martinaise. Don’t “over-game” Disco Elysium. Go with the flow and see where the exceptional story will carry you to the heart of Disco. Or the apocalypse. Or Communism, regret, la Responsibilité. There are a lot of fun things to discover.
Never ever save scum. You are playing a desolate husk of something that was a cop years ago, so you live through your fuckups. At least for the first run. Then and only then will you ride the Idiot Doom Spiral until the end.
See you on the other side of the pale, fellow second yefreitor. Officer on scene.
Evolutionary deaths and genuine internal character conflict. It’s one of the VERY few games where you can game over due to ennui.
It’s probably the single most complex dialog tree in gaming even before you take into account it’s wholly original leveling system.
You’re not alone. When I played it I gave up on it after 8 hours. It felt like reading a book with no plot. Nothing really happened during my play time. Except for random deaths that forced me to save scum all the time.
The art style is nice though.
There’s a bright side to the ZA/UM mess though: since the team that worked on Disco has split into a bunch of new studios we’re getting at least three spiritual successors instead of Disco Elysium 2.
I read about the three new studios. The art collective one sounds interesting with their anti-corpo attitude. Seems like they could come up with something with a similar mindset.
What I’m really interested in, though, is what Robert Kurvitz and that other guy are cooking.
I wish I got into it as much as everyone rose did.
When I was young I played plenty of animal crossing and harvest moon.
But for one reason or another stardew valley just didn’t grab sadly.Right behind…
Balatro?
Yep
I’m a big Slay the Spire fan but have never heard of it yet. I’ll check it out, but I do wonder why it’s ranked higher than Slay the Spire.
I’m also a massive slay the spire fan, I’d say Balatro is easier to pick up and the runs are shorter, so it really has an addictive loop of “just one more try”, however I think you’re much more in the hands of RNG and I personally wouldn’t put it on the same level as STS, but it is a great game and definitely worth checking out!
Plus now they made a mobile version
I gotta check this later on pc, this constant text jumping while scrolling is insufferable
Strange, I’m not experiencing that! Are you using an adblocker? I’m wondering if ads might have something to do with that.
Nope, I don’t have an Adblock on my phone
Aha! I wonder if the ads cause the janky scrolling.
If you’re interested, you can get ublock on Firefox if you’re using Android, and wipr from the App Store on iOS to get adblocking in Safari! Firefox Focus also has Adblock by default.
Huh i expected this list to be populated by multi shooters but it isn’t that, it’s surprisingly good. I played 33 games on this list and i even agree that half of them should be on that list, though not necessarily with specific placement.
