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    18 days ago

    I’m a lifelong fan of political dramas. I watched the BBC version of House of Cards and adored The Manchurian Candidate.

    There’s stuff going on in this election that makes everything I ever read seem placid and tame.

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      18 days ago

      Republicans would vote for the corpse of Trump before even considering not making a terrible decision. I cannot believe that this election is this close. It’s mind boggling that the outcome is currently a toss up between Nazi spray tan confused grandpa and middle road politician.

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        The point isn’t to get Trump into the Whitehouse; it’s to get Vance into the whitehouse.

        Trump will legitimately kick the bucket within the next four years, guaranteed. And Vance will be the one to take his place. Vance will be the one who is suddenly an “incumbant” backed by the heritage foundation who is actually reasonably well spoken, able to debate, far smarter than Trump, and younger.

        Vance wasn’t “chosen” by Trump, he came as a part of the deal with the Heritage Foundation to get him elected.

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          My hope is that after Herr Trump finally croaks there will be a power vacuum in the party. Sure if he’s elected and it happens in office there will be an effort to consolidate around Vance, but you know some looked over pissant is waiting in the wings to try to take the reins. If he’s not elected it will likely be much more tumultuous. Here’s hoping.

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            Trump is a figurehead and mouth piece only, it’s clear the backing and power behind him is pushing him, not the other way around. If Trump is dead or unelectable then they will sub in someone else. Trump’s “saving grace” is that he was good at speaking in a relatable but obfuscating way which worked to foment the masses against imagined grievances, but that’s not a trait unique to him. He is unfortunately replaceable with not much loss in momentum.

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              Trump is definitely not a “figurehead only”. He is a tiger that what’s left of the Republican establishment has by the tail. They did not want him to win the primary again, they all hate him, and are just trying to get whatever judicial appointments and erosion of regulations they can out of him. Anyone who thinks Trump is a puppet is absolutely blind to American politics. He is an absolute wildcard that everyone is trying to react to, a whirlwind that folks hope they can push in the direction they want to destroy the things they want, but they are equally aware they can fall out of grace and be fired in two weeks like everyone in his last administration.

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          Trump will legitimately kick the bucket within the next four years, guaranteed.

          Putin is furiously trying to figure out how to put polonium into a Big Mac

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        18 days ago

        If he died tomorrow Republicans would be Black-Friday-75%-off-smart-tvs trampling each other to be the one to skin him and wear him so they could continue the coup.

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          Bruh I know the Overton window in the US is megafucked but she’s literally one of our most liberal politicians by voting record, she is not “firmly right wing” by any reasonable standard

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          If by right wing you mean not strictly anti-capitalist, sure, at the end of the day shes not going to ovsrthrow capitalism. Still the policies and protections she wants to enact is the furthest left we’ve gone in multiple lifetimes. The last time we’ve had any kind of policy proposal like hers was likely FDR.

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            FDR proposals, which directly came from a socialist, actually helped the working class. Our wages suck, our labor conditions sucks, our future prospects sucks, and we keep getting told everything is fine. She and democrats are not progressive in action, only in lip service.

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          Do those accounts include the one where she just called for legalizing pot?

          Or is that a Right position in your mind?

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      If you wrote this election into a political drama ten years ago, it’d get rejected as not believable.

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        True story I have told so many times…

        Right after the 2016 election the NY Times assembled a panel of all the creators of the top TV political dramas. House of Cards, West Wing, Scandal, Veep…

        Every creator said the same thing. If they’d had a character say that they “liked soldiers who didn’t get captured” the networks and advertisers would have demanded that character be shown as hated by all Americans and voted out by the next episode.

        Meanwhile you have MAGooswho also fly the black POW/MIA flag next to their Trump flag

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        lol! Yes, yes I have.

        I’ll see and raise you. “The Porkchoppers” and “The Fools In Town Are On Our Side,” both by Ross Thomas.

        Thomas was a Washington reporter turned crime novelist. The first book is about a Union election and the second is about an attempt to clean up a small Southern city by making the corruption so bad that even the pimps will vote for reform.

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      ::: spoiler Yeah but not until he pushes Maggie Haberman in front of a subway. That will be the turning point for me. :::

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        That reference eludes me. If it’s from HOC, forgive me; haven’t watched either version in a while.

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          I think it’s referring to the internet joke. In gifs of crashes/falls/other assorted bodily injury, if the person’s shoes fly off, then they probably died. If not, probably alive.

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          Hillary Clinton being picked up and thrown in a car by one of her bodyguards when she seemed a little faint. Much of the internet concurred “The shoe come off - she dead.”

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            Indeed. Hilary did eleven hours of grilling over Benghazi and never broke a sweat.

            Donnie gets the vapors having to debate Harris.

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        FPTP-voting was created by wealthy romans to benefit wealthy romans, that anyone uses this system today is just bonkers to me and probably why this comparison of yours is not so far removed at all.