• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    22 days ago

    It’s more of a difference in practical values. At what point does the “lesser evil” itself become intolerable evil? Some people insist that you should vote for Hitler over 101% Hitler, that there is no intolerable level as long as there is a miniscule difference. Others have firm red lines in the sand, like genocide, where they advocate for abandoning them and pushing as hard as you can, even advocating for moves outside the electoral system like revolution.

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      22 days ago

      So to put this in more practical terms, one would neither vote for Hitler or 101% Hitler, and instead vote for The Other Person who Isn’t Much Hitler At All, or abstain or something, and protest and take action in other ways?

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        22 days ago

        The “correct” answer is to vote for “Not Hitler” and join a revolutionary org, such as FRSO or PSL in the US.

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          22 days ago

          Which candidate who opposes both Russia and Israel’s genocide has a path to the presidency? Legitimately, fully feasible path in 3 weeks to get this candidate to have 270 electoral votes?

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            22 days ago

            The point isn’t to win the presidency, but to show the votes the Dems threw away by being genocidal, and again, joining revolutionary orgs.

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              22 days ago

              So throw the country to the fascists polluting our homes, destroying our education system, rallying up people who enjoy committing hate crimes to other Americans. It’s the Democrats fault we will repeat the events of 2016.

              Got it.

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                  22 days ago

                  Electing Republicans forces PoC and queer politicians to step down from death threats and fear of their livelihood. It removes safeguards for students and the disabled, for protestors and for communities who are dependent on support from their government.

                  When socialists run as Democrats, they get elected and accomplish small steps. Small steps are about the only actions we have.

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                    22 days ago

                    What “Socialists” are running as Democrats? I’m aware of none.

                    Secondly, revolution is necessary and is absolutely an action we can take.