• Cagi@lemmy.ca
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    “I’m libertarian” followed by an assumption like businesses are “supposed to” do anything except make money and bump their stock prices by any means necessary. Yep, checks out.

    Businesses are horribly inefficient due to their short term thinking. Efficiency is a marshmallow test. Doing things right in hopes of making $150 tomorrow will always be tossed out in favout of a garunteed $100 right now, doing it fast and dirty. The idea that businesses are naturally incentivized to do x because of market forces is bullshit if x is anything other than whatever makes the most money right now.

    They send our natural resources to the other side of the world so slaves can turn them into goods that they ship right back to us. Efficiency is an expense that businesses are often incentivized to avoid when doing it wrong is cheaper.

    If you want businesses to do anything but chase short term profits as ruthlessly as they can get away with, you need regulations.

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      Water is supposed to flow down. If there’s wood under that water, it’s supposed to rot.

      I’ve become libertarian due to a lot of experience with people.

      It’s the hated ideology exactly because it doesn’t give an outlet to someone’s wish of finding the golden pill and\or being above the nature. Well, there is no satisfaction for such wishes IRL, libertarians are just honest.

      All that text is clueless accusations mixed with implications that you have some better idea. You don’t, look around.

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        No, it’s a hated ideology because it doesn’t work, and all it does is show your lack of understanding of how the world and human behavior work

        Letting private businesses run unchecked is always going to be a bad idea. Full stop.

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            That’s just because you don’t have an argument to refute what I said.

            The reason regulations exist is because of how horrible things were when they didn’t exist.

            Edit: See. When pressed for an actual response they dipped out. All you have to do is look at the history of the US post industrial revolution to know that libertarianism is by far worse than our current system, and that’s saying a lot.

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            It’s been proven to be right over and over and over again for literally centuries, across the entire world, to the point that you could set your watch to its inevitability. Any attempt you could possibly make the prove the contrary would be a waste of time for any person living down here on earth.

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        No one has ever dealt with people before, it’s certainly not something everyone does every day, you are the only one. You clearly have an advantage over every one else. And businesses work exactly like wet wood, it’s a flawless analogy.

        I wasted so much time speaking with politicians, learning about economics, sociology, law, civics, and history, and all I needed to do was have experiences with people and I’d be a political genius too. I mean here I am, almost 40 years old, having spent my entire working career and off time dealing with people, but that doesn’t count. None of it counts but yours.

        When I look around now vs years ago and see how deregulation is the cause of for almost all of our modern woes, I am left to agree with you, the solution must be even more delegation. Unmitigated greed by earth’s most ruthless people has always heralded a golden age of universal prosperity. Just look at the industrial revolution and the 20s. Children working and dying in factories and mines again is a sign of good things, but society can only succeed if we can sell these kids hard, addictive drugs without legal interference.

        Edit: Libertarians aren’t hated, they are laughed at. Its the ultimate indicator your political opinions are nonsense, just like your comments in defense of it have demonstrated. It’s entirely based on what you think should happen, not was does happen. The advantage of living among people is the strength and prosperity that comes from cooperation and pooled resources. But that’s not the opinion the rich people who would enslave you paid good money for you to have.

        Inb4 “fool blocked” as a response to your cognitive dissonance.

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          Not a single paragraph without attempts at cheating, so of course another fool blocked.

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            What?! Ha ha, what is cheating in an online comment? Things aren’t "supposed to"ing like you want so its cheating? Cheating means breaking rules. Are saying adhering to some kind of rules or regulations would make our conversations more productive?

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        So you’ve met people, and think they’re smart and educated enough to do the right thing all by themselves?

        This seems odd to me

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          They are definitely closer to that for doing the right thing all by themselves that for deciding what others will do.

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            At first, I couldn’t figure out how you attributed such intelligence to the average person. Then I realized that it simply means that you think the average person is very smart on every topic.