• Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    118
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Why does everyone always focus so much on architecture? Like, if you really wanna visualize how South Korea is materially much better off than North Korea, just use the satellite view at night where North Korea is almost completely absent of lights.

    There’s a million better things to criticize North Korea for besides having commie blocks. Especially considering the pic they chose genuinely doesn’t look that bad.

    Such a weird attempt at a meme from these folks.

    • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      45
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      “Commie blocks” can be quite nice if renovated and repaired regularly. The big problem with them is when they’re basically left to rot, with elevators that haven’t been inspected in over 2 decades, corroded water pipes, and jury-rigged electricals.

      Edit: Should also probably mention that tenement blocks were absolutely perfect for their explicit goal: building pretty decent housing cheaply and quickly for post WW2 countries flattened by war.

      • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        1 year ago

        And they provide high-density housing where everyone lives close to public transit and few people need a car. Then, your work, a mall, a park etc. can be three tram stops away.

        • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          I’m sure they do. They’re used in basically every country, to a greater or lesser degree. It just seems that when talking about a formerly or currently communist country, tenement blocks suddenly become “commie blocks”, as if it’s a uniquely Soviet style of housing or something.

      • Eldritch@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        They are not “commie blocks” they are an architectural design referred to as brutalist which was used around the world at the time. And their disrepair is on par and quite familiar to those of us familiar with tenements and slumlords in wealthy Nations. So it’s got nothing to do with Communism of any stripe.

    • azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      You don’t need to do a very good illustration job for people to associate NK with famine, abject poverty, and an oppressive regime. The pictures do an alright job at that, and everyone understands what this meme really says: NK can’t feed its citizens, SK is rich and prosperous almost beyond belief, especially considering that NK had a big head start after the war.

      Like c’mon, this is just the wrong meme to post in “the right can’t meme”. In fact “capitalism prosperous, communism poor” is a 60+ year old meme at this point. Maybe we should start articulating capitalism’s own problems through memes rather than stupidly “dunk” on capitalists for touting what is arguably capitalism’s greatest success story.

  • 4am@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    75
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    1 year ago

    Ok but now embargo, sanction, and blockade the capitalist side, too

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      37
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      …and have it run by a greedy, despotic dictator. Make sure the dictator says its a capitalist country though, seeing as labels are more important than what’s actually happening in a country.

      • Eldritch@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        That nearly does describe most capitalist countries though. It’s just that the wealthiest people in them, the oligarchs are the despotic rulers whom the government runs itself for.

        • DragonTypeWyvern
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          It also describes South Korea under the literal fascist dictatorship it was running until 1980.

          To be fair, their dictator got assassinated by the CIA, a rare win before Reagan started making them support his kind instead.

  • JokeDeity@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    46
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’m definitely not pro commie, but this is a terrible example for your gotcha’.

      • exohuman@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        37
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Oh, well I am sure that is true. I would not call North Korea communist as much as it a God Tier Dictatorship that only promotes one man as if he were a god.

  • Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    What has a starving bunch of citizens with no freedom and the whole countrys budget is spent on military.

    The other one is samsung