“I’ve known Ted Cruz for 20 years. And it’s been clear—everybody who knows Ted Cruz, and I’m sure most of you in this room know Ted Cruz, nobody thinks Ted Cruz is a man of great honor,” [Liz] Cheney said.
My brother that ain’t sarcasm. That’s just literally what’s happening. The Harris campaign is campaigning with this woman. She’s pulling her up on stage and putting her arm around her. That is an accurate depiction of events that have occurred. Harris has been gushing about how great The Cheney family is. It’s fucking weird.
Again not seen together. I don’t know why you people keep trying to whitewash this. Actively campaigning with each other. They didn’t run into each other at the grocery store, they didn’t meet at someone’s birthday party, and they didn’t Chit Chat while in line at the bank. Kamala Harris and her campaign actively decided to invite the Cheney’s to campaign with them. To put a spotlight on them. To talk about how awesome they were. That’s fucking weird.
I’m not a friend of Dick Cheney ever I don’t care who his enemy is. War criminals responsible for the slaughter of tens of thousands of Innocents are nobody’s friends. Kamala Harris sucking up to this man is stupid.
You do understand that Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney are two totally separate people, right?
Harris didn’t invite “the Cheneys” to campaign with her. She invited Liz Cheney, a congresswoman who seems to have some significant amount of integrity which is unusual for a congressperson. She also said nice things about Cheney’s father, which you could argue she shouldn’t have, but if this is how hard you freak out that Harris said something nice about a bad person, you must be horrified to the point of screaming panic at how many nice things Trump says about all kinds of overt war criminals in the present day, to the point that you want to very vigorously make sure he doesn’t get elected.
I’m not sure why you think I’m confused about who was who, and seeing as how you already pointed out that while on stage Harris gushed about how awesome Dick Cheney was I really think you’re being disingenuous here. Also Liz Cheney has no Integrity she was a terrible fucking Congress person just cuz she didn’t like Donald Trump doesn’t change that. The fact that she loves Ted Cruz should probably tell you that.
No I’m not upset by that because I never considered voting for Trump. However I was planning to vote for Harris so yeah now I’m fucking upset. Just like I was upset when Hillary Clinton decided to show how awesome she thought Henry Kissinger was in 2016. I’m fucking upset when neoliberals have to rub it in my nose how much they love war criminals. I’m upset I live in a world in which I leftist have to vote for a neoliberal because the other options are fascists. And I wish they’d be less cocky about it. I wish they didn’t like to dance in the viscera of their millions of innocent victims and act like I should be grateful for it.
And I really really wish that Kamala Harris would stop fucking around, because again like I said the only other option is a fascist. Being super friendly with war criminals doesn’t earn her votes. So why the fuck is this weirdo doing it?
Except, she didn’t do that. Here are her remarks. She said, at one point, “And I also want to thank your father, Vice President Dick Cheney, for his support and — (applause) — and what he has done to serve our country.”
She didn’t say he was awesome. Or good. Or that she was glad he was alive. She thanks him for his support, as an aside within 1800 words at an event which didn’t have all that much to do with him. Why are you playing up this twisty narrative that that meant she “gushed about how awesome” he was?
However I was planning to vote for Harris so yeah now I’m fucking upset.
“Was” planning?
This is the deal-breaker? She said one nice thing about a bad person, and all of a sudden it doesn’t matter what Trump wants to do with the United States, or what might happen if he wins?
That is why I’m making a specific point about this. You are freaking out in a very calculated way, distorting one sentence at a campaign event into “I wish they didn’t like to dance in the viscera of their millions of innocent victims” and “Being super friendly with war criminals” and things like that.
If you want to find reasons to not vote for Kamala Harris, be honest about why. Don’t pick out individual freakout events that can be spun into something they’re not, and dutifully freak out about them as if they mattered.
Even better, work for change. If you want to support someone that’ll be better than Kamala Harris, no one is stopping you. But freaking out in a particular dishonest way about one thing she said at a campaign rally, and turning it into something very different from it was so you can say you “was” planning to vote for her, sounds a lot like propaganda to me.
“I’ve known Ted Cruz for 20 years. And it’s been clear—everybody who knows Ted Cruz, and I’m sure most of you in this room know Ted Cruz, nobody thinks Ted Cruz is a man of great honor,” [Liz] Cheney said.
-Al Franken
-Lyndsey Graham
No highly esteemed deed is commemorated here… nothing valued is here
It is dangerous and repulsive to us
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours
Whelp, that’s gonna live in my heart rent free forever. Thank you.
And then Kamala Harris pulled Liz Cheney up on the stage with her, put her arm around her and waved.
Yeah because they agree on soooooo many things. I can only think of one offhand?
Not sure what njm is trying to say, but Harris and Cheney did do an appearance together:
https://youtu.be/aPdRtKbw2L4?t=1318
I thinking of it as both teaming up against the opposition seeing as how Cheny has been very outspoken like Kinsinger.
My brother that ain’t sarcasm. That’s just literally what’s happening. The Harris campaign is campaigning with this woman. She’s pulling her up on stage and putting her arm around her. That is an accurate depiction of events that have occurred. Harris has been gushing about how great The Cheney family is. It’s fucking weird.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13925145/Kamala-Harris-Dick-Cheney-Liz-Cheney-campaign.html
Oh I’m not disputing that they’ve been seen together. I see it more of a enemy of my enemy is my friend situation.
Edit: and I’m sure the Chenys are generally plesant as long as someone is in the right demographics lol
Again not seen together. I don’t know why you people keep trying to whitewash this. Actively campaigning with each other. They didn’t run into each other at the grocery store, they didn’t meet at someone’s birthday party, and they didn’t Chit Chat while in line at the bank. Kamala Harris and her campaign actively decided to invite the Cheney’s to campaign with them. To put a spotlight on them. To talk about how awesome they were. That’s fucking weird.
I’m not a friend of Dick Cheney ever I don’t care who his enemy is. War criminals responsible for the slaughter of tens of thousands of Innocents are nobody’s friends. Kamala Harris sucking up to this man is stupid.
You do understand that Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney are two totally separate people, right?
Harris didn’t invite “the Cheneys” to campaign with her. She invited Liz Cheney, a congresswoman who seems to have some significant amount of integrity which is unusual for a congressperson. She also said nice things about Cheney’s father, which you could argue she shouldn’t have, but if this is how hard you freak out that Harris said something nice about a bad person, you must be horrified to the point of screaming panic at how many nice things Trump says about all kinds of overt war criminals in the present day, to the point that you want to very vigorously make sure he doesn’t get elected.
Right?
I’m not sure why you think I’m confused about who was who, and seeing as how you already pointed out that while on stage Harris gushed about how awesome Dick Cheney was I really think you’re being disingenuous here. Also Liz Cheney has no Integrity she was a terrible fucking Congress person just cuz she didn’t like Donald Trump doesn’t change that. The fact that she loves Ted Cruz should probably tell you that.
No I’m not upset by that because I never considered voting for Trump. However I was planning to vote for Harris so yeah now I’m fucking upset. Just like I was upset when Hillary Clinton decided to show how awesome she thought Henry Kissinger was in 2016. I’m fucking upset when neoliberals have to rub it in my nose how much they love war criminals. I’m upset I live in a world in which I leftist have to vote for a neoliberal because the other options are fascists. And I wish they’d be less cocky about it. I wish they didn’t like to dance in the viscera of their millions of innocent victims and act like I should be grateful for it.
And I really really wish that Kamala Harris would stop fucking around, because again like I said the only other option is a fascist. Being super friendly with war criminals doesn’t earn her votes. So why the fuck is this weirdo doing it?
Except, she didn’t do that. Here are her remarks. She said, at one point, “And I also want to thank your father, Vice President Dick Cheney, for his support and — (applause) — and what he has done to serve our country.”
She didn’t say he was awesome. Or good. Or that she was glad he was alive. She thanks him for his support, as an aside within 1800 words at an event which didn’t have all that much to do with him. Why are you playing up this twisty narrative that that meant she “gushed about how awesome” he was?
“Was” planning?
This is the deal-breaker? She said one nice thing about a bad person, and all of a sudden it doesn’t matter what Trump wants to do with the United States, or what might happen if he wins?
That is why I’m making a specific point about this. You are freaking out in a very calculated way, distorting one sentence at a campaign event into “I wish they didn’t like to dance in the viscera of their millions of innocent victims” and “Being super friendly with war criminals” and things like that.
If you want to find reasons to not vote for Kamala Harris, be honest about why. Don’t pick out individual freakout events that can be spun into something they’re not, and dutifully freak out about them as if they mattered.
Even better, work for change. If you want to support someone that’ll be better than Kamala Harris, no one is stopping you. But freaking out in a particular dishonest way about one thing she said at a campaign rally, and turning it into something very different from it was so you can say you “was” planning to vote for her, sounds a lot like propaganda to me.